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Dear Arizona; Has SCOTUS made secession your only option
Monday, June 25, 2012 | Bob Ireland

Posted on 06/25/2012 12:13:28 PM PDT by Bob Ireland

Dear Arizona;

As Justice Antonin Scalia has just written, the SCOTUS opinion against the state of Arizona concerning immigration problems has made the phrase 'sovereign state' of no further effect.

The primary function of government is to serve the people it represents. One primary function under that obligation is to protect the population it serves. The SCOTUS opinion states that - if the United States Federal Government has statutory mandate to fulfill that obligation - then the state has no right to supersede the Federal Government when the Federal Government refuses to extend that protection.

The effect of the SCOTUS opinion today is to eliminate states' rights' in a major area of the states' statutory mandate. Put another way, the Federal Government can establish rules that eliminate states' rights under historical common law.

This author therefore suggests that the state of Arizona call a Constitutional Convention of interested states - to potentially include Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Alaska and perhaps the Carolinas [and any other state wishing to bind itself under such restrictions as herein mentioned] - pursuant to forming a new sovereign nation established under the auspices of the original Constitution of the United States.

Such Declaration of Independence should include a rejection of an imperial presidency which reserves unto itself the right to establish and enforce laws as it best sees fit without legislative oversight. The Declaration should reject all laws and regulations that establish a socialist, communist or dictatorial interpretation of states' rights or citizen's rights.

Such a federation or commonwealth should recognize in perpetuity the right of any member state to withdraw from the union when the said union jeopardizes the rights, liberties or the pursuit of happiness of said member state and its citizens. It should recognize the responsibility of the Executive Office as lawfully established to enforce laws properly passed by the legislature of representatives of the people, and to be interdicted against reinterpreting the meaning of such legally passed laws or refusing to enforce said laws.

The convention of agreeable states should establish such legal standards as were envisioned by the Founding Fathers of the United States, and should carefully protect states' rights and individual citizen's rights.

It is impossible to see any other alternative for states and citizens wishing to protect their Constitutional rights in the face of a runaway Federal Government of the United States, and its various organs, that has all but suspended the founding intent of the original Constitutional Convention.

LET FREEDOM RING!!!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: constitution; secession; statesrights; vanity
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To: arrogantsob

You are forgetting TEXAS. We were a sovereign Republic from 1836 to 1846. We did it once before; we can do it again.


81 posted on 06/25/2012 2:15:23 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: Lady Lucky

“They wouldn’t even have to break the law, necessarily. Just don’t make money or own anything significant, and you don’t have to pay income tax. (Or is that too much to ask?)”

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Given the sorry state of the economy, that should be easy.


82 posted on 06/25/2012 2:15:45 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: righttackle44
***don't go trying to tell us in Arizona how we';re going to handle the matter***

This author therefore suggests that the state of Arizona call a Constitutional Convention...

Turn your bed 90 degrees before rising.

83 posted on 06/25/2012 2:16:13 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: GBA

Almost every presidential election year has a turnout of (sometimes barely) over half of the voting age population.

“We have met the enemy and he is us.”

“You can’t cheat an honest electorate.”


84 posted on 06/25/2012 2:24:44 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: nanetteclaret
***TEXAS . . . We did it once before; we can do it again***

You may soon see a large legal immigration! ;-)

85 posted on 06/25/2012 2:25:19 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: nanetteclaret

And you’re forgetting Texas v. White.


86 posted on 06/25/2012 2:26:23 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Tublecane

>>Why go through the process of ratification if the states had sacrificed their sovereignty to the Articles and it was perpetual?<<

The States sacrificed no sovereignty under the Confederation. That was the problem.

There was a sea change regarding sovereignty between 1776 and 1787. Whereas the original State constitutions had largely been ratified by State legislatures, by 1787 most had been revised and ratified by conventions of the people.

The Articles of Confederation were not dumped solely because the states lost interest in it after the war. In short order we came to regard real sovereignty as actually residing in the people and not state legislatures. A less Federal and more democratic real government under the Constitution better reflected American concepts of sovereignty.


87 posted on 06/25/2012 2:27:14 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: rustbucket
***. . . Madison said . . . ***

You are definitely a delegate! ;-D

88 posted on 06/25/2012 2:30:45 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

Unfortunately Brewer doesn’t have the chops to do the right thing for the country and the US Constitution.

For starters they should just remove Obama from the ballot.


89 posted on 06/25/2012 2:42:46 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Bob Ireland

Unfortunately Brewer doesn’t have the chops to do the right thing for the country and the US Constitution.

For starters they should just remove Obama from the ballot.


90 posted on 06/25/2012 2:43:07 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Bob Ireland

Secession would be so sweet. Can you see all the losers in washington befuddled as they begin to lose their god, money.It would be awesome to see.


91 posted on 06/25/2012 2:49:22 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Bob Ireland
This author therefore suggests that the state of Arizona call a Constitutional Convention of interested states - to potentially include Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Alaska and perhaps the Carolinas [and any other state wishing to bind itself under such restrictions as herein mentioned] - pursuant to forming a new sovereign nation established under the auspices of the original Constitution of the United States.

The court has upheld the most important parts of the Arizona law, so there's no reason for secession.

However, Arizona may follow you up on this and back out at the last minute, in order to "fake out" some of those other states.

92 posted on 06/25/2012 2:50:40 PM PDT by x
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To: Bob Ireland

Secession would be so sweet. Can you see all the losers in washington befuddled as they began to lose their god, money.It would be awesome to see. What an unholy place with their gay junk and all their other unholy alliances not supported by America.


93 posted on 06/25/2012 2:52:33 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Bob Ireland

As I understand the abuse of AZ, the administration uses Article I Section 8 Clause 4, “To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization . . . “ as the club to demand a State subject itself to hundreds of thousand of invaders. Baloney.

Seriously, the nature of the people coming across the border without permission is far closer to that of invaders than to immigrants.

IMO, the States should petition/demand Congress implement Article IV Section 4, “The United States shall . . . protect each of them (states) against Invasion; . . . “

Better to go down this road first.


94 posted on 06/25/2012 2:55:16 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: central_va

Arizona should have the support of every other state. They shouldn’t have to go this alone. The states have enough money to deport them by themselves. Start doing it and forget ice.


95 posted on 06/25/2012 2:56:54 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Bob Ireland
Sure, the economies of the world are sinking and the forces of anarchy are marching in the streets everywhere. Armageddon may indeed be nigh ...

However, the real news today is that Bob Ireland is posting on Free Republic! Welcome to the fight! (again) :)

96 posted on 06/25/2012 2:57:32 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Carry me back

Sheriff Arpaio on Cavuto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SdyQcyVCSs


97 posted on 06/25/2012 3:00:06 PM PDT by halo66
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To: Bob Ireland

All AZ has to do is continue to make arrests as usual and use the detainees as slaves building State projects like roads in the desert. It won’t take Obama long to back the Hell down when his voters are being held as slaves because the federal government refuses to deport them as required by law. So, AZ should just keep them until the feds pick them up for deportation.


98 posted on 06/25/2012 3:06:36 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: Jack Black

It is common sense that states had and have the right to secede. But really does it matter ? If the states want to go, the US government doesn’t have the reslove or power to stop them this time. The blacks or hispanics couldn’t care less and I don’t see guys from Vermont trying to invade another state this time. I’m not calling for it, but I think the states would win this time easily.


99 posted on 06/25/2012 3:07:07 PM PDT by Carry me back
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To: CodeToad

Agree with this. A game of chicken is being played right now.


100 posted on 06/25/2012 3:08:54 PM PDT by Carry me back
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