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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: L,TOWM

Please consider not leaving it blank. It is better to put any name in the field than to leave it blank where the potential exists for anyone to put in their choice for you!


621 posted on 05/04/2012 11:53:57 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Persevero
"Chris Christie is pro-life."

Christie's first decision was to select a pro-choice running mate as Lt Gov. She would take over if he leaves.

622 posted on 05/04/2012 11:53:57 AM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Kevmo

Then you will re-elect OBamby—


623 posted on 05/04/2012 11:56:41 AM PDT by rxtn41
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To: presently no screen name; reaganaut; RitaOK

I’m interested in your comments on this thread.


624 posted on 05/04/2012 11:57:05 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Persevero
One thing I’d like to see on FR, as we look to 2016, is a general consensus on the ONE candidate FR is maybe officially supporting.

My first impulse is that this is the most important point I have read while lurking on this thread. But on second thought -

Let’s say (and pray) that Romney wins in November. The only way a primary challenger has a chance in 2016 is if President Romney crashes and burns on an Obama-itic scale. I doubt that will happen. Maybe the focus for the next four years should be on increasing the conservative presence is the House and Senate. Just because, for one thing and also to encourage Pres. Romney to steer to the right whenever he is inclined to waver.

625 posted on 05/04/2012 11:58:34 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: delapaz
Or vote Obama and straight conservative downticket, and get a chance for a real conservative in 2016.

That is BULL EXCREMENT. By all means, crawl over broke glass to vote straight conservative downticket.

But voting for Obama is as nuts as voting for Romney. There's another alternative. I remember what happened to Clinton when 57% of the vote count was against him, and he won on a 43% plurality. He got his ASS KICKED in the mid-terms. I am voting against liberalism in the General because it is the best way to make my vote, an oar in the water, steer the course such that whichever socialist wins, Obama or Romney, wins on as piss-poor a plurality as possible, with a vote count where well over 57% of votes cast, were cast in opposition. It would be a blow to the political gut, power-wise, for whichever liberal statist gets the White House.

A vote FOR Obama is an exceedingly stupid vote.

626 posted on 05/04/2012 11:58:34 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Kevmo
I’ll be writing in Palin.

That'll send a message.

Right here:

Voting for people who aren't running is beyond stupid.

627 posted on 05/04/2012 11:58:46 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Lazlo in PA
It is worse than that. There is thread after thread anymore trashing solid Conservatives, in the most vile way, just for supporting Romney. The Bachmann thread a couple days ago comes to mind. She was called a whore and it was left to stand. This has to stop or there will be no limit to the level of destruction going on here.

Yeah, I know. I saw that thread and it was vile. Notice though that it was pretty much just the same handful of people that have spewed that sort of venom. It really isn't that many members involved, it's just that they felt emboldened because the majority who plan on voting for the Republican nominee (which will be Romney) didn't feel they could fight back without risk of being banned. And really, I'm pretty sure it was just one seriously deranged poster who was responsible for the really incredibly vulgar stuff directed at Bachmann. With the majority now free to speak their minds and support the Republican nominee, I think you'll find that fringe opinion will have a much harder time of dominating the forums.

628 posted on 05/04/2012 11:59:42 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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629 posted on 05/04/2012 12:00:01 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good to read this. It’s what I’ve posted on here thru the Operation Chaos primary season. I didn’t see any of the candidates as true Tea Party conservatives. I want to see someone emerge for the next presidential cycle who has been elected because of Tea Party backing and has a record to run on. So the best I was hoping for was getting more TP candidates elected to state and local offices. If Romney wins, those are the people of his own party that he will have to answer to. The fewer GOP-e, the better. Bottom line—NO OBAMA!


630 posted on 05/04/2012 12:01:03 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: CanuckYank
I for one am VERY concerned that the BIG FIX is in place already and it’s so well orchestrated that this DIVIDE & CONQUER PLAN is now the invisible elephant in the room

It is and it's firm...and yes divide and conquer has and will work as well...we've seen it here. It's was the plan and we should have seen it when they threw out there so many candidates running and further saying the more the merrier....it worked against us. The gop played every one of them....and created confusion for the voter.

So here we are. What a mess!

631 posted on 05/04/2012 12:01:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: EnglishCon; Responsibility2nd
JR I respect immensely, but not even he gets to say where my vote goes/who I support.

He never said anything like that. The owner has stated that FR will not be used to campaign for Romney. I think that's very clearcut.

As to the other, posting on an anti-freeper site and posting here is normally called trolling. No one wants to see you get caught up in something nasty.

632 posted on 05/04/2012 12:01:54 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Not “selling” anything just stating facts! You can face them or not.


633 posted on 05/04/2012 12:03:33 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: RitchieAprile
what slime did I throw? I merely stated a truth known to any parent.

Not just a retread, but a dishonest one as well. You know darn well what you were implying with that post.

634 posted on 05/04/2012 12:04:22 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Persevero

http://familypolicy.net/us/?p=9975


635 posted on 05/04/2012 12:04:22 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: MNlurker

makes no difference who occupies the White House, it is still stock up time. The only difference it makes is if there is ammo to stock up on. We have a better chance of that with Romney.


636 posted on 05/04/2012 12:04:38 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: cajunangel

I think your “politics of personal destruction” post kinda speaks for itself — or rather, smells. It has the thick scent of Romney.


637 posted on 05/04/2012 12:05:20 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Jim Robinson

My dear Jim, this decision of yours to make sure your loyal FReepers are not fractionated will help FR’s economy! I could tell people were rethinking their donations because you didn’t approve of them voting for Romney to stop the communist enemy Obama.

This is a wise decision and I personally feel more welcome here now.

I agree with everything you say about ROmney and the GOPe.

We need to start NOW to develop more than grass roots of a true Constitutional Conservative Tea Party (I don’t care what the name is, but it has to be planked on the principles which unite conservatives).

You have made my day with this post. You understand how we feel. Some of us will be voting Romney just to stop this takeover by enemies of our nation. It’s OK if you can’t stomach it.

Also, to everyone, we did not FAIL with the Tea Party. Real change, that you CAN ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN, takes time. What we want to change is to have a party which runs NOMINEES WE CAN BELIEVE IN. LOL. What the Tea Party did was establish that there is a large number of Americans who do not want Washington statists. The statists just wish to protect their own cushy taxpayer money, lobbying positions, country clubs, and seats on tv poli-chat shows. We want to return to the freedom our Constitution promised.

We had hoped our grassroots movement would have been sufficient to give us good strong conservative candidates that would have left the traditional RINOs in the dust.

It was a very good start, but we had to fight the statist media, especially Faux News, who had our parents in their easy chairs completely fooled that the network was somehow conservative, and this phony network bamboozled enough voters to allow GOPe to win with their Democrat with an R by his name.

We couldn’t get far enough that fast. We have a few miles to go before we sleep. But we need to PUSH NOW for the new party that will allow us to dump the GOP. For they will forever take our votes for granted, knowing we can’t go the other way. It is time for a third party that will knock the GOPe to its knobby knees. We can’t start soon enough for 2016.


638 posted on 05/04/2012 12:09:15 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: DJ MacWoW

I disagree. Being disruptive or spreading FUD is trolling. Posting on a wide variety of discussion sites is normal.


639 posted on 05/04/2012 12:09:15 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Responsibility2nd
Yes, he always misquotes people. Did it again in the post just before yours.
Responsibility2nd is a disruptor troll and always has been.
640 posted on 05/04/2012 12:09:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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