Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.
We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!
We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!
And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!
Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!
The Republic we save may be our own!!
As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.
Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!
We are the resistance!!
Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!
I refuse to vote for a Ted Kennedy socialist liberal hack regardless of what letter is behind their name.
I'm a conservative and will not fold my hand at the behest of self promoting liberal hacks willing to destroy the republic just for their own personal gain.
Mitt Romney will not get my vote just as 0bama will not get my vote.
Conviction will save our Republic, not a political party.
I’m probably going to hold my nose and vote for Romney. Not to win the presidency but to at least have a chance at preserving the supreme court. I will vote the most conservative candidate in every race. Hopefully we will get enough conservatives in congress to keep Romney on a very tight leash
I propose our action plan for the next four years is to close our primaries. Allowing dems and independents to vote in primaries has been a disaster!
“Come to Jesus” moment! Heads up!
“Come to Jesus” moment! Heads up!
I don’t think I have seen a single freeper that selected Romney as their first choice. I am a Newt Supporter, but to answer your question, let me make further comparisons between Romney and the Kenyan by asking you to consider the following questions: Which candidate has a deep-seated visceral hatred for America? Which candidate has a similar hatred for White Americans? Which candidate is not just a supporter of “gays”, but has exhibited such deviant behavior? Which candidate is a closet Muslim? Which candidate supports Muslim operations around the world? Which candidate has a spouse that shares the same hatred? Which candidate most hates free enterprise? Which candidate has actually earned much of his way to the top of his field and which has had everything delivered in his lap because of the race? Which candidate allies himself with marxist pigs, known terrorists, and open racists? And finally, and most importantly, which candidate has a corrupt old media on his side and has a well-planned plot to divide his opposition by making sure his opponents split their ticket, thereby assuring his second term? I will not fall for this demRAT-trap.
Get real, If Romney wins, he gets the 2016 nomination.
two choices, vote Romney and no chance for a conservative until 2020, and that’s only if Romney has not destroyed the GOP brand by then like Bush did.
Or vote Obama and straight conservative downticket, and get a chance for a real conservative in 2016.
I know what I’m doing.
Also Jim, this truce is BS. You’re caving to the Romney clan just like all the rest of them. Name and fight the enemy whether they are in your house or not.
Sounds like it, I am still waiting to hear, since Ron Paul is still in the race and Paul is not Romney, if I can post support for Paul without getting banned. My gut feeling is I'd better not try it. lol.
I’m not going anywhere...
I prefer TEA over Koolaid anyday.
That is correct, sugarcoating isn't aloud!
I then was further shocked seeing threads where it was okay for Newt Gingrich to endorse Romney but not Mrs. Bachmann.I also saw you ACTUALLY ACCEPT money in the FReeperthon thread from a dying man without a job.Please take the time to explain this or I will be forced to assume you are a lowlife if you don't.There may be a story behind it,I hope.But it sure doesn't look good.Please give that man his money back now! Have you lost your mind,Mister Robinson?
I bing searched Newt,Bachmann,Perry supporting Mitt Romney news articles and found threads from free republic that I thought were from daily kos.I know from reading an old bio a long time ago,that you are a former democrat.I ask: who could support Obama I mean really!? Did you get so disgusted with the GOP you are a democrat now?Am I posting on a democratic forum? WHAT IS GOING ON?Please kindly explain. Thank-You!
Why is it you are speaking for the tea party?The tea party is a big tent with people that are not as diehard as you with social issues.Upon further reading of threads why haven't you ceased the bigotry and mormon hating threads and the nasty posts running people off posted by the very people that help you in the FReeperthon threads?You need to reign in the group of hate that control this forum.ONE presently has no screen name and the others are just as nasty.
If this post is deleted or you do not reply to me; it will answer all my questions immediately and I will assume you have gone back to being democrat as only democrats act wishy washy and support Obama.You know darn well if you don't vote for Romney and encourage others not too and continue allowing other conservative candidates to be trashed on your forum; you are electing Obama.
I believe you're right. Our last Civil War didn't prevent national elections; this one will because of the utter chaos in the Democrat-controlled cities will prevent it.
Thank you, Jim.
Symbolically - and, perhaps one day soon, literally -we all crouch shoulder to shoulder in the same foxhole on the front lines, facing the same enemy: Our ideas about tactics differ, but I’d like at least to think that I fight at the side of folks who knew I was on their side all along.
I thank you very much for your offer, and accept the truce. God bless you, and bless us all, and bless our United States.
I’m a Yankee and I’m not even half of those things. Didn’t know my Ex had moved south.
Yes, agreed. Romney has too much chameleon in him, but that may work to our advantage. There's more of us (R's) than them (D's). Jim R would disagree, but Romney's performance in Massachusetts may be misleading, given the liberal environment in which he was forced to swim.
Since Rick and Newt's concessions, I've sensed a boldness in Romney. No doubt he's ready to pounce on our problems and will act decisively. I expect a freeze on hiring on day one, for example. Shrink the gubmint by attrition if not by wholesale dept. closings/consolidations. After all, that is his wheelhouse. Economy is his strength. He seems committed to reducing taxes, opening up oil and gas which will ignite the pent up economy. It will roar.
Socially, I have a hard time believing Romney -- a squeaky clean Mormon must I remind you--will move left, while the majority of the country is center right and moving right. In short, I hope and believe he'll be comfortable in a conservative environment, rather than stuck in a liberal cesspool like Massachusetts. He's already indicated he's willing to take on Obama, much more so than McCain ever thought of doing.
The real tugging will occur within the R's. If we can't tug him to the right as far as we like, we'll grow the T-Party even more until we can't be denied. Repeat; Romney will bend to pressure.
Sounds like a plan. Resist we much!
Your problem, and cross to bear.
We have to work together. My plan is not to talk to sellout Rombots at all..in fact, treat them like the Westboro "God loves dead soldiers" morons and just turn my back on them, all I work on more important things. The Rombots are now dead to me....
Now, on to victory in November!
Anybody But Obama!
Your post is not constructive, nor helpful.
It’s not all about you.
Make a donation to the Freepathon (link’s at the homepage) then sit back and watch for a while, m’kay?
FR is not the enemy.
And please don’t insult Mr. Thompson. You insult Mr. Thompson, you insult all FReepers.
No need for any truce if they're actually conservative.
If they're not actually conservative, in other words if they're Romney Republicans, a truce amounts to a cessation of hostilities, which means they've won.
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