Tom Hoefling: "Mitt Romney is still a pro-choice democrat, and admits it on his own website"

Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | May 2, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

[EternalVigilance]

Mitt Romney: Judicial supremacist, anti-republican, pro-choice, democrat.

Here's the proof.

Listen to the eight minute audio HERE .

*Excerpted from May 1, 2012 America's Summit, Restore the Republic call

[EternalVigilance]

That's an excellent idea that Obama would love for you to impliment: divide the vote with a loser third party candidate. You will really show them then. LOL.

I don't care what socialist pro-choice democrats think.

[Windflier]

So you think he will abandon his platform entirely once elected, giving up any chance of re-election?

Why are you putting any stock in a lying scum politician's campaign rhetoric to begin with? Especially when that scumbag politician can't sort out which side of the fence he's on from day to day.

If you want to know how any man will operate in the future, look to the deeds of his past. Reviewing Romney's record in office is the only objective method of gauging what he's liable to do as president, if elected - and that record is decidedly left liberal.

The bottom line is, we conservatives have been had, once again. The two primary contenders in this contest both work for the same masters. We have no real choice, except to maintain our personal integrity, and refuse to choose either of them.

The right and only real choice for patriots at this point, is resistance. Figure out what that means to you, then do it.

[SoothingDave]

Are you familiar with a person called “President Obama”?

I am. About his record and beliefs I hold no delusion.

The choice is the one we have little faith in versus the one we know is an anti-American disaster.

The choice is easy for me.

[EternalVigilance]

Wow. That’s classic Romney Republican sophistry.

Translated, what you’re saying is, “Being unprincipled is principled and being principled is unprincipled.”

Thanks for coming on here and illustrating my points so thoroughly Greatly appreciated.

[hosepipe]

Is that YOU Barack?... Snazzy comeback... or even Karl Rove..

[kenmcg]

Beware of pro Obama marxists infiltrating conservative websites.

[Elsie]

I want that cocky smirk off Obama's face.

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How badly??

[Colofornian]

I've saved my most pertinent comment for a second post here...showing that D-fendr has implicated himself here -- along with the rest of the new-found Romney supporters on FR & elsewhere.

There is not even a scintilla of reasonable judgement that actions that support the regime’s election goals will do anything but further the regime’s power. [D-fendr]

You do know, doncha, D-fendr that when Obama's gatekeepers and wonks and campaign strategists and some key MSM leaders all sat down in late 2010 or early 2011 and figured out, "OK, who's the best we could hope for as the GoP nominee?" That the answer to that Q was Romney... hands-down.

Why?

Reason #1: Romney was part of an openly racist org that he gave 10% to the first 13 yrs of his adult life; Obama is black. Bingo! The MSM can make the campaign a referendum on racism.

Reason #2: Romney and Obama are the socialistic healthcare pioneer twins. It totally undercuts any Romney or GoP crits of ObamaCare. (And the same goes for Big Govt crits of Obama; 'cause socialistic healthcare is THE ultimate big govt overreach)

Reason #3: They knew Romney's pro-abortion stances and waffling on social issues would ostracize the social-issues voters...both evaporating such voters & draining any significant energy toward a get-out-the-vote.

Reason #4: They knew whacky Mormonism would have a similar ostracizing effect on Evangelicals and liberals -- and to a lesser degree Independents and other religious voters.

Reason #5: How can anybody criticize Obama's apparent closet Muslim caterings/ties when the major opponent is somebody who thinks he's a "god in embryo" and needs to necro-baptize Holocaust victims?

Reason #6: How can the "birthers" complain about a man not likely born in the U.S. when the major opponent doesn't deny his religious belief that he didn't even originate on this planet! (Romney thinks he's an alien spirit-born in a place near Kolob, whatever that is)

I could go on & on...with more similarities re: appointing liberal judges, global warming, how Romney is the perfect "class-envy" candidate due to Bain's actions and Romney's wealth, etc....

What does that mean for this conversation? Well, D-fendr, you claimed "that actions that support the regime's election goals" doesn't equate to "even a scintilla of reasonable judgement."

Well...tell us D-fendr...How do you new Romney bandwagon riders like being part of one of the primary "election goals" that have gone back about a year and a half for RegimeObama? Tell us!

You are all ObamaRegime's a dream come true...something they probably thought their MSM operatives and state-level temp party switchover voters (in those states that allow that in primaries) could NEVER in their wildest fantasies pulled off!

How do you feel being the direct subject of an ObamaTeam's fantasy??? Do you enjoy knowing you've been giving them political jollies?

How do you feel furthering ObamaRegime's "election goals" via you joining them in their pegging of Romney?

Here, the ObamaRegime has been "high-fiving" each other for at least all thru April...they can't begin to remove the smiles from their faces...despite the economic bleakness all around them...

The GoP played right into their hands!

[tnlibertarian]

Absolutely! Judicial superracist, anti-republican, pro-choice. All that. And that dog thing. The carrier thing, not the eating thing. Can you believe that? Dreadful. I wouldn't be voting for that Romney guy. Vote for Tom whats-his-name. That's what I recommend. Teach those no-good GOPers a lesson!

[D-fendr]

Acting on principles requires serious consideration of the results of one’s action.

Yes. You seem to disagree, why?

are you speaking as a prophet here?

No I think the point is self-evident, not prophetic.

If you mean do I think the Obama regime remaining in power is a result of considerable harm? I think that, too, is self-evident. Further I think that result would be the maximum harmful result possible in this election.

Where I am disagreeing, with you too perhaps, is in granting the moral or principled high ground here. I think that is not self-evident when working to defeat the political opponent of the current regime.

thanks for your reply.

[Antoninus]

Enjoy defending your leftist. There’s no chance I’ll join you, nor will I vote for his mangy hide.

[HwyChile]

Do you really think you are the majority opinion on this board or anywhere else? Do you really think most conservatives are not going to vote for the GOP candidate? You look like a fool on here with all your anti-Romney BS.

[Diogenesis]

Do you really belong here? IBTZ.

[EternalVigilance]

Along with the other Romney Republicans on this thread you have de facto stipulated to the fact that Mitt Romney is a pro-choice, anti-republican, democrat.

So, once again your post amounts to:

“Being unprincipled is principled and being principled is unprincipled.”

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

-- Isaiah 5:20

[SoothingDave]

When you cut through all your nonsense the message is: Obama (may have) preferred to run against Romney more than any other candidate.

That means we should therefore cut out the middleman and directly work for Obama’s re-election?

Strange logic you have there.

One of two people will be in the White House next year. I am voting for the one who isn’t Obama.

Why is that so hard to understand?

[Elsie]

I want that cocky smirk off Obama's face.

How's this???

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[ArrogantBustard]

Do you really think you are the majority

Do you really think I give a rat's hairy ass whether I am "the majority"??? Do you really think I give a rat's hairy ass what most "conservatives" are going to vote for? Do you really think I give a rat's hairy ass what a meaningless troll like you thinks of me personally?

Seriously ... You grossly overestimate your own importance. Perhaps you drank too much self-esteem kool-aid in kindergarten.

[D-fendr]

I don't know why you disagree with this statement:

"There is not even a scintilla of reasonable judgement that actions that support the regime’s election goals will do anything but further the regime’s power."

Why do you disagree with this? You think there is a scintilla of reasonable judgement that Tom here will defeat Obama?

To answer your other questions: I supported Newt and will vote for him next Tuesday. I agree with Mark Levine and others that one works to elect one's candidate in the primary and, if you don't win, you support your party in the general.

My candidate lost. I wish there had been a better field. I wish the notRomney vote had united behind one candidate and the others had dropped out and supported him.

Thomas Sowell, early on in the process identified this as what needed to happen in order to beat Romney in actual elections. It didn't happen. Nothing changed, so we lost this opportunity.

You seem to blame the monolithic party for this. Might as well blame "the voters." I think that's a scapegoat or at the least naive. We lost in the arena of politics, hopefully we learn from this. At any rate, the lessons learned do not include voting for Tom Hoefling or Virgil Goode or some other internet fantasy.

It's just not gonna do anything but help the regime stay in power. Not gonna do that.

[Antoninus]

So the choice is a partial conservative (fiscal) and a full blown classical Marxist.

Partial conservative? Surely you jest. Romney is a liberal. And a liar. And a politician with a track-record of attacking conservative ideals and working to destroy conservative candidates and promote liberal ones.

If you think that is somehow superior to weak, ineffective Obama, you're delusional. You're casting a vote for your own disenfranchisement.

[SaraJohnson]

The Rinos are the ones who pushed Romney over the mountain to beat conservatives. If Obama wins, it will be the fault of the liberal republicans who shoved a socialist onto the Party.

Conservatives were clear with the GOP that they did not want him and that he was absolutely unacceptable. Most of all, the GOP had no doubt conservatives reject Romneycare/obamacare and they did it anyway.

I think they want Obama to win. Get used to it. They are a one party mob in DC. They don’t care who wins the Presidency as long it is not a conservative who will derail their “progress.”