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To: Colofornian
Acting on principles requires serious consideration of the results of one’s action.

Yes. You seem to disagree, why?

are you speaking as a prophet here?

No I think the point is self-evident, not prophetic.

If you mean do I think the Obama regime remaining in power is a result of considerable harm? I think that, too, is self-evident. Further I think that result would be the maximum harmful result possible in this election.

Where I am disagreeing, with you too perhaps, is in granting the moral or principled high ground here. I think that is not self-evident when working to defeat the political opponent of the current regime.

thanks for your reply.

90 posted on 05/02/2012 1:18:48 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Along with the other Romney Republicans on this thread you have de facto stipulated to the fact that Mitt Romney is a pro-choice, anti-republican, democrat.

So, once again your post amounts to:

“Being unprincipled is principled and being principled is unprincipled.”

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

-- Isaiah 5:20


94 posted on 05/02/2012 1:23:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: D-fendr
You seem to disagree, why? [re: comment of principles]

do I think the Obama regime remaining in power is a result of considerable harm? I think that, too, is self-evident. Further I think that result would be the maximum harmful result possible in this election. Where I am disagreeing, with you too perhaps, is in granting the moral or principled high ground here.

I don't listen (too often) to Michael Medved's show...today he had on Jonah Goldberg -- founding online editor of Natl Review.

Goldberg has a book out: The Tyranny of Cliches: How Liberals Cheat in the War of Ideas.

There was one caller to Medved, who Medved said he agreed with, that said some things pertinent to this convo we're having.

It seems to me that with your "greater harm to the republic" comment a few things the caller said resonated with me as to what I found troubling in your comment.

The caller mentioned how in too many countries, the "cold logic" of advocating "the greater good" for the country has resulted in a lot of immoral and oppressive things excused under that umbrella.

The caller emphasized that America is not one of those "cold logic...greater-good" countries...contrasting how we are indeed a "nation of principles."

What I find quite troubling is the highly utilitarian ethic of the "greater good" (or more often, less of a problematic "evil") being touted so much over and above being a nation...a party...of principles.

150 posted on 05/02/2012 2:59:13 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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