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Tom Hoefling: "Mitt Romney is still a pro-choice democrat, and admits it on his own website"
Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | May 2, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 05/02/2012 11:22:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

Mitt Romney: Judicial supremacist, anti-republican, pro-choice, democrat.

Here's the proof.

Listen to the eight minute audio HERE .

*Excerpted from May 1, 2012 America's Summit, Restore the Republic call


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: democrats; romney
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To: caww
The GOP had this locked long ago.

The primary consisted of candidates, campaigns, voters and elections. It was a weak field and the notRomney opposition failed to unite around one candidate.

Blaming the party is nonsense. Supporting an even weaker candidate with even less unity does nothing to fix the problem, is a nonsensical, perhaps feel good, exercise.

61 posted on 05/02/2012 12:48:53 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.


62 posted on 05/02/2012 12:50:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: EternalVigilance
Well you can either ride your principal into another Obama term or you can recognize that that plan is a bad plan and get behind the only other alternative, which is Romney. The old saying don't cut off your nose to spite your face applies here.
63 posted on 05/02/2012 12:50:32 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: D-fendr

The GOP never has a good candidate (Dole, McCain, Bush, etc.). I don’t know what these “principled” conservatives expected. If you only vote for the perfect conservative candidate, you will always get a liberal democrat.


64 posted on 05/02/2012 12:53:23 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: EternalVigilance
First I want to thank you for addressing my questions the other night on another thread on FR.
I have some new questions for you.

1) Is America's Party a previously established party, or or you a one man party?

2) In how many states are you on the ballot?

3) Is this a write in campaign?

I have not decided yet who to vote for and you are definately under consideration.

65 posted on 05/02/2012 12:56:02 PM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: D-fendr
Acting on principles requires serious consideration of the results of one’s action.

How would you know?

I don’t see your actions as principled or moral, because the results are greater harm to the republic.

That's an amazing thing to say to someone simply because they won't support a pro-choice democrat.

Especially in light of the fact that you are saying it in support of said pro-choice democrat.

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

-- Isaiah 5:20


66 posted on 05/02/2012 12:56:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: HwyChile
The choice is between Obama and Romney.

Some choice. The only difference between those two, are their team jerseys.

And don't start with the, "well at least Romney doesn't hate this country!" His record in office was just as destructive to our basic American institutions and ideals, as any far left Democrat. He hasn't changed his spots, and will govern exactly like Obama, if given the chance.

The man is one of the biggest fraud we've ever witnessed, yet people are convincing themselves that because he's got an R fixed on his jacket, he's one of us.

Good lord....

67 posted on 05/02/2012 12:58:06 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: hosepipe
Obama is proper punishment for murdering our babies.. and other things.. Could be the punishment is not over yet..

Good grief. Martyr much?

68 posted on 05/02/2012 12:59:53 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Windflier
Then vote for Obama if you don't like Romeny. Those are the two choices, and there are only two to vote for. Whining about Romney not being conservative enough does not change the facts.
69 posted on 05/02/2012 1:01:08 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: rightly_dividing

America’s Party was founded four years ago. We have Affiliates in all fifty states.

I’m not ready to publicly talk about our ballot strategy as yet. Folks are working on it.

But, we can always use more help, if you’re willing.

It won’t be a write-in campaign if folks get off their duffs and work hard to get the job done.

Thanks for your consideration. I greatly appreciate it.


70 posted on 05/02/2012 1:02:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: HwyChile; EternalVigilance
If you don't like Romeny, go vote for Obama and get off this board.

Funny. The boss agrees with Eternal Vigilance, not you. Seems to me it's you who oughta leave the board.

71 posted on 05/02/2012 1:03:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
will govern exactly like Obama, if given the chance.

So you think he will abandon his platform entirely once elected, giving up any chance of re-election?

I do not want another Obama term. So I'll make you a deal. Give Romney a term and if he's just the same as Obama, I'll help you put Obama back in office in 2016.

Deal?

72 posted on 05/02/2012 1:03:07 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: EternalVigilance
That's an excellent idea that Obama would love for you to impliment: divide the vote with a loser third party candidate. You will really show them then. LOL.
73 posted on 05/02/2012 1:04:04 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: D-fendr; EternalVigilance; All
Acting on principles requires serious consideration of the results of one’s action. I don’t see your actions as principled or moral, because the results are greater harm to the republic

#1 this is pure utilitarian pragmatism ethics disguised as "morality" ... as if empowering an abortion healthcare mastermind like either Obama or Romney can be skewed by you to be "moral" conduct...

Tell you what...go dismember a few pre-born babies and then come back and try to spout how "moral" that action is...

Pathetic and lame.

#2...your portended "results are greater harm to the republic" might be true; might not be true.

Your phrasing here is always worth a mention on these threads (just not trying to embed them in anything "ethical").

The Q then becomes...are you speaking as a prophet here?

How do you know that God won't more immediately judge a nation of so-called "Christians" who don't mind endorsing, promoting, and elevating a man who claims to be a living embodiment of a rival god to THE God???

If somehow you think that God didn't tend to get more riled up over the spiritual adultery of His people -- than the pagans in the Old Testament -- then you haven't carefully read the OT.

74 posted on 05/02/2012 1:04:27 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: D-fendr

[ Good grief. Martyr much? ]

The election is Kabuki Theater.. nobody actually dies.. its all drama..
except for, of course, the babies.. they die..


75 posted on 05/02/2012 1:06:59 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: HwyChile

You have definite trollish qualities.


76 posted on 05/02/2012 1:07:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: HwyChile
It is over.

Are you premature, ahem, in other areas as well?

77 posted on 05/02/2012 1:08:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: EternalVigilance
How would I know that: Acting on principles requires serious consideration of the results of one’s action?

I think that's self-evident. Do you disagree?

Problem is I'm not granting you high moral ground just because you claim it - while acting in a manner that does not seriously consider the result of such actions.

If you had principle you would have opposed who seems to be your main opponent in the primary - where defeating him could, possibly, have actually done some good other than helping Obama. That would have been principled and courageous and require actual political skills to build a successful campaign.

Something more than this internet self-gratification.

It's not principled at all to do so, and I'm certainly not going to support your personal party in some act of self perceived self-righteous suicide that only furthers the power of the current. No thanks.

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
- George S. Patton

78 posted on 05/02/2012 1:09:29 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: hosepipe

Sorry, can’t join you in your own drama. I can give up anytime.

I’m claiming to still be alive and kicking thus far.


79 posted on 05/02/2012 1:11:12 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: HwyChile
We all

"We"??? Who's "we"? You and your dog?

know

You don't know jack shit, n00b.

80 posted on 05/02/2012 1:12:37 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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