Posted on 04/25/2012 8:31:57 AM PDT by kevkrom
Now with the race pretty much over, I can post this without that concern. These are ideas, and only a high level at that. I invite everyone to comment, correct, add to, etc.
All we can do now is support SarahPAC to keep the pressure on the GOP-e.
The ‘right’ GOP had the same problem this year as they had in 2008: too many messengers, too little message.
In both races, several conservatives entered and basically divided their portion of the political pie. At the same time, the elites had one candidate who benefitted from the chaos on the conservative side.
Divide and conquer.
The elites let the conservatives divide themselves, and the elites managed to conquer both years.
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Unless and until the conservatives wake up, present one unifying candidate to carry the message, they are going to continue to splinter and lose the primary race.
You are right. Conservatives cannot agree on anything because they have their “principles”. They are all right and they will tell you so. Just watch the rest of this thread abd see.
I know many of my fellow Tea Partiers bristle at the idea of organization or leadership, but that’s what we need. We need a Tea Party caucus within the party functioning by ‘16 complete with a ‘party within the party’ platform and delegation system. WE need to hold our caucus a full month before the first state primary/caucus and choose our candidate.
In this way, no leader wannabe gets to “speak for the Tea Party”. We would speak, as a group, for ourselves.
If the Tea Party formally organizes about the business of choosing our candidate before the first state contest, we can short circuit the long fingered wave from the national GOP-e.
Nope. Romney pulled ahead because he was better organized ....years ago, greased the skids(Niki Haley) and played a negative campaign largely relying on Attrition .
He never got specific with his positions and won’t in the general. it will be flowery terms against... Wait for it.... The same strategy he just waged.
Barracks is even better organized and will have a 10-1 advantage in bank with tons of loot and don’t think he won’t pull that cap of allowing $300 million in tiny donations from foreign sources again. He will absolutely do it.
Barracks is going to say Romney was the templates for ObamaCare® “So, what is the problem? Why Can’t Mitt admit it? We did, after all, rely on the advice ot two of his advisors who helped him craft MittCare®!!!”,
LOLOLOL
“He seemed pretty proud of his legislation and laughed as he signed the bill!” (rubs face with middle finger)
It will start there and get worse.
2nd amendment
Gay Rights
Abortion
Etc.
“LOL, Wait, so this guy was for it but now he’s against it?” “Who iz this guy?”
Mitt wanted to be President long before any of the guys in this primary and gathered a coalition to work on strategy, tactics, counters.
But! it ain’t over til its over and so long as Newt’s in, I’m in, with him
A Tea Party within the party formal caucus works for down-ballot races, as well.
It's part and parcel of the same thing -- a fragmented group of conservative candidates cannot be organized, because they're competing for resources instead of coalescing them.
And so another GOP primary season wraps up, all but officially, and once again, conservatives get the shaft. As usual, it is largely of our own making, as we fail to unify behind a single standard-bearer and allow the “establishment” candidates to pick us off one by one, as none can gain enough momentum to topple the McCains or Romneys of the world. -—
What I don’t understand is how this can be anybody’s idea of fair. I understand there are still 14 states that haven’t even held their primaries yet—that means people in those states haven’t had a chance to vote yet-—???How can the primary season be OVER???? How can this be fair-—and since when did we start running an election this way? Doesn’t anybody see a problem here??? I would think there would be enough intelligence in this country to see a HUGE problem here...we can’t go on this way.
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Any particular reason you are writing in an “us vs. them” style against us conservatives?
If you were a conservative; would you not say...”Conservatives cannot agree on anything because WE have OUR principles. WE are all right and WE will tell you so.”
You know, I think you’re right. I was looking at this at more of a micro level, but real impact would be made if it could be done at an organizational level. Potential candidates could compete for the endorsement of the TP caucus, which would come with funding and organization behind it.
With enough money and organizational infrastructure, it would certainly be a prize worth having, and a rule that would require anyone submitting themselves to the caucus to support and endorse the winner of the “pre-primary” would keep fragmentation to a minimum.
The potential pitfalls would be the need to keep the caucus on-mission, as the GOP-E would certainly seek to infiltrate and “turn” it, or at least marginalize it enough to dry up the money and influence. Also, there would have to be a vigorous and thorough vetting of contenders so that there would be no ugly surprises down the road.
I think that was written from the point of “them” being the “I’m a ‘pure’ conservative and everyone else is a RINO” type. At least, that’s they way I read it.
It may go to Romney, but it's not the time to call it until he has all the uncontested delagates required. And I strongly suspect Florida will be contested.
/johnny
I’m sure she’ll do that as a unification gesture, but her PAC will hold everyone’s feet to the fire, including Romney.
Inevitably, sooner or later, we are going to have to take on the GOP RINO establishment in a Presidential race and defeat them. It must be done.
Are the stakes too high to do it in this cycle? Perhaps.
Four more years of Barry might find us all in re-education camps while the yutes march around the periphery singing The Internationale.
Is a blistering 2016 primary challenge to Romney in the cards?
Not sure how it will play out but nothing will change until after we take out the Beltway RINOS, once and for all.
Florida and I believe another state as well.
The changed the rules to winner-take-all in the middle of the contest.
It is suppose to be proportional.
Additionally I there are several states who Romney has garnered but the Delegates are uncommited.
And the territory delegates he won can’t vote. But, Romney shrewdly spent money to get them so he could atritt the field and support.
Those were definitely beauty contest votes.
So Romney doesn’t really have the number of delegates everyone says he does.
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