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I've been mulling these points over for a while, but have held back on posting them because I didn't want it to seem like I was trying to use this as an indirect means to support my own chosen candidate.

Now with the race pretty much over, I can post this without that concern. These are ideas, and only a high level at that. I invite everyone to comment, correct, add to, etc.

1 posted on 04/25/2012 8:32:01 AM PDT by kevkrom
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All we can do now is support SarahPAC to keep the pressure on the GOP-e.


2 posted on 04/25/2012 8:34:56 AM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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The ‘right’ GOP had the same problem this year as they had in 2008: too many messengers, too little message.

In both races, several conservatives entered and basically divided their portion of the political pie. At the same time, the elites had one candidate who benefitted from the chaos on the conservative side.

Divide and conquer.

The elites let the conservatives divide themselves, and the elites managed to conquer both years.

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Unless and until the conservatives wake up, present one unifying candidate to carry the message, they are going to continue to splinter and lose the primary race.


3 posted on 04/25/2012 8:45:03 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: kevkrom

You are right. Conservatives cannot agree on anything because they have their “principles”. They are all right and they will tell you so. Just watch the rest of this thread abd see.


4 posted on 04/25/2012 8:46:45 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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I know many of my fellow Tea Partiers bristle at the idea of organization or leadership, but that’s what we need. We need a Tea Party caucus within the party functioning by ‘16 complete with a ‘party within the party’ platform and delegation system. WE need to hold our caucus a full month before the first state primary/caucus and choose our candidate.

In this way, no leader wannabe gets to “speak for the Tea Party”. We would speak, as a group, for ourselves.

If the Tea Party formally organizes about the business of choosing our candidate before the first state contest, we can short circuit the long fingered wave from the national GOP-e.


5 posted on 04/25/2012 8:47:10 AM PDT by ziravan (Are you better off now than you were $9.4 Trillion dollars ago?)
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Nope. Romney pulled ahead because he was better organized ....years ago, greased the skids(Niki Haley) and played a negative campaign largely relying on Attrition .

He never got specific with his positions and won’t in the general. it will be flowery terms against... Wait for it.... The same strategy he just waged.

Barracks is even better organized and will have a 10-1 advantage in bank with tons of loot and don’t think he won’t pull that cap of allowing $300 million in tiny donations from foreign sources again. He will absolutely do it.

Barracks is going to say Romney was the templates for ObamaCare® “So, what is the problem? Why Can’t Mitt admit it? We did, after all, rely on the advice ot two of his advisors who helped him craft MittCare®!!!”,

LOLOLOL

“He seemed pretty proud of his legislation and laughed as he signed the bill!” (rubs face with middle finger)

It will start there and get worse.

2nd amendment
Gay Rights
Abortion
Etc.

“LOL, Wait, so this guy was for it but now he’s against it?” “Who iz this guy?”

Mitt wanted to be President long before any of the guys in this primary and gathered a coalition to work on strategy, tactics, counters.

But! it ain’t over til its over and so long as Newt’s in, I’m in, with him


6 posted on 04/25/2012 8:51:03 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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So Romney now has enough uncontested delegates to lock it up? I don't think so.

It may go to Romney, but it's not the time to call it until he has all the uncontested delagates required. And I strongly suspect Florida will be contested.

/johnny

15 posted on 04/25/2012 9:27:00 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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My big postmortem on this one is that somehow the GOP managed to cobble together a worse field than they did in 08. I’m hoping their intention was to actually throw the election, because if it wasn’t we are long term screwed.


21 posted on 04/25/2012 9:53:44 AM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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Well most of the front runners where HORRIBLE!! Newt?? really?? I live here in Ga and dont know anyone that likes him!

Romney? gag...

Cain or Santorum probably would have been better...

We have the weakest sitting president in history.. and the lousiest candidates?? how is that possible??


22 posted on 04/25/2012 9:56:28 AM PDT by wyowolf
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So, how do we avoid this problem next time?

Everyone here needs to be ACTIVE members of the republican party. They need to put themselves up or draft conservatives to run for ALL government and party governing positions. Keep those like Lugar, Hatch, and Snowe in the crosshairs. We may not win all those, but we can make it RINO's work very hard in the primaries.

This is not a 100 meter dash, it is an ultra-marathon to which we need to pledge our lives fortunes and sacred honor.

Okay - Romney is the nominee, and I'm going to vote for him because I can in no way help Obama. But the chess game is not over. With enough support in congress, conservatives can still win by tying Romney's hands. RINO's must fear us more than they like Romney. Ditching Lugar and Hatch will help us.

25 posted on 04/25/2012 10:30:33 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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The simple truth is that being a good conservative isn't, in and of itself, a good qualification for being President of the United States. The President is a leader and executive, and needs to have those traits as well.

It sounds like you're making a good case of LCol West. I could get excited about that choice!

26 posted on 04/25/2012 10:46:14 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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there is little to no chance that he will enact a conservative or TEA Party style set of changes should he win.

I guess that depends how "pure" you are in defining the "conservative changes" you want to see.

If Romney can get the EPA (and other agencies) off of business's throat, simplify the tax code, kill Obamacare (if it isn't already dead) and free up our reserves of energy, I'll take it.

I don't know what you want, but we need to change hearts and minds, not laws, if we want to see changes in moral areas.

And lots and lots of education and mind-changing would have to happen before we could even think about things like getting rid of the Federal Reserve or getting rid of the 17th Amendment.

27 posted on 04/25/2012 10:55:09 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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