Primary Postmortem [Vanity]

Special to Free Republic | 2012-04-25 | Self

[discostu]

My big postmortem on this one is that somehow the GOP managed to cobble together a worse field than they did in 08. I’m hoping their intention was to actually throw the election, because if it wasn’t we are long term screwed.

[wyowolf]

Well most of the front runners where HORRIBLE!! Newt?? really?? I live here in Ga and dont know anyone that likes him!

Romney? gag...

Cain or Santorum probably would have been better...

We have the weakest sitting president in history.. and the lousiest candidates?? how is that possible??

[Wallace T.]

One factor to consider is that a number of potentially stronger candidates, like Sarah Palin, Jeb Bush, and Paul Ryan, decided to sit out the 2012 primaries. There was a general feeling that with the economy in a weak, but notable recovery and the Middle East wars winding down, that Obama would be a difficult target to beat. Romney has the organization and the money. Paul has the organization but not the money. From October of last year until March of this year, the conservative candidates fluctuated as this week's Reagan II. None (Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Gingrich, and Santorum) could sustain momentum for more than a few weeks, and in the cases of Bachmann, Perry, and Santorum, injured themselves with gaffes or past extreme-sounding statements. Cain's alleged affairs and Gingrich's actual ones weakened their viability. None of the conservatives had adequate money or organization.

The conservatives were, in the end, midgets where giants are needed.

[Wallace T.]

One factor to consider is that a number of potentially stronger candidates, like Sarah Palin, Jeb Bush, and Paul Ryan, decided to sit out the 2012 primaries. There was a general feeling that with the economy in a weak, but notable recovery and the Middle East wars winding down, that Obama would be a difficult target to beat. Romney has the organization and the money. Paul has the organization but not the money. From October of last year until March of this year, the conservative candidates fluctuated as this week's Reagan II. None (Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Gingrich, and Santorum) could sustain momentum for more than a few weeks, and in the cases of Bachmann, Perry, and Santorum, injured themselves with gaffes or past extreme-sounding statements. Cain's alleged affairs and Gingrich's actual ones weakened their viability. None of the conservatives had adequate money or organization.

The conservatives were, in the end, midgets where giants are needed.

[ALPAPilot]

So, how do we avoid this problem next time?

Everyone here needs to be ACTIVE members of the republican party. They need to put themselves up or draft conservatives to run for ALL government and party governing positions. Keep those like Lugar, Hatch, and Snowe in the crosshairs. We may not win all those, but we can make it RINO's work very hard in the primaries.

This is not a 100 meter dash, it is an ultra-marathon to which we need to pledge our lives fortunes and sacred honor.

Okay - Romney is the nominee, and I'm going to vote for him because I can in no way help Obama. But the chess game is not over. With enough support in congress, conservatives can still win by tying Romney's hands. RINO's must fear us more than they like Romney. Ditching Lugar and Hatch will help us.

[Retired COB]

The simple truth is that being a good conservative isn't, in and of itself, a good qualification for being President of the United States. The President is a leader and executive, and needs to have those traits as well.

It sounds like you're making a good case of LCol West. I could get excited about that choice!

[SoothingDave]

there is little to no chance that he will enact a conservative or TEA Party style set of changes should he win.

I guess that depends how "pure" you are in defining the "conservative changes" you want to see.

If Romney can get the EPA (and other agencies) off of business's throat, simplify the tax code, kill Obamacare (if it isn't already dead) and free up our reserves of energy, I'll take it.

I don't know what you want, but we need to change hearts and minds, not laws, if we want to see changes in moral areas.

And lots and lots of education and mind-changing would have to happen before we could even think about things like getting rid of the Federal Reserve or getting rid of the 17th Amendment.

[kevkrom]

If Romney can get the EPA (and other agencies) off of business's throat, simplify the tax code, kill Obamacare (if it isn't already dead) and free up our reserves of energy, I'll take it.

I don't trust him to do any of that.

[caver]

No particular reason other than I am a poor writer. I get your point though. I consider myself a conservative, but I’m not going down with the ship trying to hold on to my perfect conservative candidate. The arguments from fellow Freepers on here are to such an extreme that most won’t get behind another conservative because of some little transgression over the last number of decades. To most on here, there is only one candidate. That was where I separate myself from the others. Since we haven’t had a Republican even remotely conservative since Reagan, I would settle for most any conservative, and that does not include Romney.

But, you got me, a poor choice of words on my part.

[itsahoot]

Nope. Romney pulled ahead because he was better organized ....years ago, greased the skids(Niki Haley) and played a negative campaign largely relying on Attrition .

Exactly how does a 30% front runner win without splitting the other 70% of the vote?

From the beginning I said none of the nine running would ever be president. I hope I was wrong, but not for the reasons you might think.

It Romney can not win, it tells us a great deal about the demographic of our population, probably something from which there is no recovery.

Romney at best would offer an illusion of change, but there would be little to no change and conservatism would for all practical purposes be dead.

I felt all along there must be someone rise up and head a true popular revolt against the GOPe or we are pretty much done as a Republic. That did not happen so I see it as Biblical Prophecy fulfilled.

1Sa 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them.

[rlbedfor]

It might be that the conservatives who whine and mone about being beat by a moderate need to get their friggen act together beforehand and not split the vote. I always wonder why this is not done and wish it was. I suspect egos. Anyhow, the only way to get a conservative president is to get a conservative nominee in the primary. That is where the fight is and the strategy. All this, I am voting for the the sure to lose “not voting” is water under the bridge and somewhat childish in my mind.

[itsahoot]

We have the weakest sitting president in history.. and the lousiest candidates?? how is that possible??

Only if it is planned, and it is.

[rlbedfor]

Too bad the conservatives did not plan as well and place one guy in instead of two. You add up the two and Romney is beaten. I was for Newt. I was for Thompson. Same story, different year.