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Doctor Claims Everything You've Heard About Cholesterol and Heart Disease is Wrong
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/03/08/quick_hits_page ^ | 3-8-2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 03/08/2012 7:35:50 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather

RUSH: Now, this health story. The website's called Signs of the Times, and the story here is by Dr. Dwight Lundell. "Heart Surgeon Speaks Out On What Really Causes Heart Disease." The upshot of it is that everything that we think we're doing to promote cardiovascular health is actually contributing to cardiovascular problems. This story prints out six pages. The doctor wrote it. So many times I have mentioned over the years about diet, health, food, how we are being manipulated by government goals, wrong medical ideas. Food activists with a logo and a fax machine putting out bogus information to the media, and they just run with it. As long as it contains "government has to step in to save us," then they'll be happy to promote whatever the lying data is.

So what we have here is a heart surgeon who is saying that he and his profession have been wrong for decades. This experiment with statins and low-fat diets has not worked. He says it's time to move on to another way. I'll give you some pull quotes before getting to the story. "Despite the fact that 25% of the population takes expensive statin medications and despite the fact we have reduced the fat content of our diets, more Americans will die this year of heart disease than ever before."

Another pull quote. "I saw it in over 5,000 surgical patients spanning 25 years who all shared one common denominator -- inflammation in their arteries." Not blockage, inflammation.

(Excerpt) Read more at rushlimbaugh.com ...


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KEYWORDS: disease; doctor; heart; wrong
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To: Irish Eyes
What is the inflammation test?

C- reactive protein.

101 posted on 03/08/2012 10:35:45 PM PST by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: Nik Naym

Euell Gibbons died of a ruptured Aorta, caused by a congenital defect, Marfan’s syndrome. Your point is?


102 posted on 03/08/2012 10:35:54 PM PST by matthew fuller (A patriotic American would be ASHAMED to have 5 non-veteran adult sons.)
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To: Balata

Thanks, I have never heard of this test. There is a lot on google about the test. Marked for later reading.


103 posted on 03/08/2012 10:43:47 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: org.whodat
"That’s him, here have some pine chips. LOL"

"Mm-mm! Tastes like wild hickory nuts!"

104 posted on 03/08/2012 10:47:06 PM PST by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain.)
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To: steve86

Oh, like doctors haven’t been wrong before!


105 posted on 03/08/2012 10:50:59 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

BFL


106 posted on 03/08/2012 10:51:47 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: sheikdetailfeather
All true!

The American People have been sold a bill of goods.

Notice how the food pyramid keeps changing.

107 posted on 03/08/2012 10:52:36 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Irish Eyes

Oxidative stress produces tissue damage which the body recognizes. It then sends out inflammatory chemicals (CRP) and pain chemicals in an effort to repair, but the oxidative stress continues so the body continues its production of C-Reactive Protein (CRP). Thus, a chronic inflammation.


108 posted on 03/08/2012 10:54:32 PM PST by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: Still Thinking

Thanks. Ordered.


109 posted on 03/08/2012 11:13:03 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Talisker

u need to switch to decaf


110 posted on 03/08/2012 11:14:42 PM PST by superfries
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To: fortheDeclaration
Notice how the food pyramid keeps changing.

I don't mean to sound ignorant of what the ignorant are preaching but I never paid much attention to it in the first place. What did they change about it?

111 posted on 03/08/2012 11:16:24 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: PA Engineer

You’ll love it! He’s done a lot of great books.


112 posted on 03/08/2012 11:17:18 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Thanks for your reply. I worked at the Northwest Lipid Research Center many decades ago. What you say about reading the available research is important, and more than many on this thread are willing to do.

Biological effects of different things can be complicated. For example, alcoholics often have very clean arteries in spite of the inflammatory effects of alcohol. Inuits who eat a traditional diet high in cholesterol often have low rates of heart disease. Vegetarian Hindus have about the same level of arteriosclerosis as meat-eating Americans. In Americans, high cholesterol levels correlate closely with heart disease. There's some evidence that people on long-term antibiotics have less atherosclerosis, and other evidence that shows that high-phytoestrogen diets reduce artery plaque formation. Diets high in vitamine C and E, red-meat fish, yoghurt, green tea, red wine, and many other foods have been reported to reduce the risk of heart disease.

The problem is that people fixate on one or two reports, and then base their diets on them instead of studying and then working out what works best for each individual.

113 posted on 03/08/2012 11:20:16 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Still Thinking

Ikes heart attack caught my attention as a potential missing piece in the connections to today. Looking forward to reading it. Thanks again.


114 posted on 03/08/2012 11:32:16 PM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Back in the early 1970s I had a friend who went to Berkely and got a degree in Nutrition. She told me there were 2 things I should know:

Bugs won’t eat margerine, so why should you? Butter is best.

Your cutting board is the dirtiest place in your house so clean it with bleach. I don’t clean it with bleach anymore, I clean it with hydrogen peroxide. It doesn’t smell and you can see the germs die. Great feeling.


115 posted on 03/09/2012 12:10:26 AM PST by tinamina
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To: maine-iac7

My husband was diagnosed as being gluten intolerant so I wnet and bought huge amounts of spelt flour which I had to have delivered to my home. Then I tried to bake bread with it. Spelt has no gluten, which is what makes bread rise in combination with a leavening agent such as yeast. No amount of yeast can make spelt bread rise. It was a very frustrating and wasteful experience for me.

My opinion is that the gluten is not the problem, the white flour is the problem. Try Dave’s Killer Bread or Ezekiel bread. Dave’s is the best and has so many whole organic grains and seed that your body could not notice the gluten, me thinks.


116 posted on 03/09/2012 12:17:46 AM PST by tinamina
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To: AnTiw1

Goodness! I laughed so hard at your post, thinking (the latter parts) were works of very good fiction on your part. Then I decided to go ahead and google one of those movements (breatherians), and imagine my shock when I realized you were not making a joke! You were actually referring to an actual movement. I am in shock! Wow. Thanks for this ...you just provided tonight’s discussion topic with my lady. Wow. Just wow!


117 posted on 03/09/2012 1:46:17 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: matthew fuller

After you have read the above I would like to add the following, something I also have seen backed up by medical doctors, so it is not just my imagination. Because of back pain, neck pains as well as other joint problems due to build up of calcium deposits etc. I have been taking COATED Aspirins for many years in varying quantities, even since I was a teenager to ease my pains.

The way Aspirin works is by reducing INFLAMMATION where ever it finds it, including arteries, just what the article above points out. My philosophy so far has been that most any trouble or problem within the human body starts with an INFLAMMATION some place, some where and Aspirin appears to minimize this process.

Needless to say this article also makes a good point about processed foods as well as sugar what I stay away from any way.

I am grateful it worked so far for me and I hope it will continue to do so. I am not a medical doctor, I just collect information where ever I may find it and then use common sense to make the best of it. And by the way I never see 70 again.....


118 posted on 03/09/2012 2:21:22 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: sheikdetailfeather

bttt


119 posted on 03/09/2012 2:25:00 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If a person’s body makes too little cholesterol they will die. It won’t really matter how much cholesterol they eat. High cholesterol is a body’s overreaction not because of eating the stuff.


120 posted on 03/09/2012 2:33:31 AM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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