Posted on 01/06/2012 7:11:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp
Baier: And now some fresh pickings from the political grapevine. A state judge in Georgia has denied a motion by the Obama Administration to dismiss a complaint challenging the president's eligibility to be on the ballot there. Attorney Orly Taitz filed the complaint back in November on behalf of a Georgia resident contending Obama is not a natural born citizen and therefore should not be on the March presidential primary in Georgia. You'll remember last year the White House released the president's long form birth certificate, however Taitz, along with many others in the so-called "birther" movement, is still not satisfied. Some in that movement call it a fake. Others say the real issue is that he's not a natural born citizen. A hearing has now been set for January 26th. The president's lawyer in Atlanta says he's optimistic the judge will decide in the president's favor.
Perhaps the Fox legal team looked at the Judges order and determined that a bit of self-protection by Fox News was called for.
Or maybe Fox News has gotten wind of what Arpaio and Perry are going to spring on the public in early February, since The Donald is a regular on Fox, as is Arpaio.
You just have to assume that Arpaio has had off screen conversations with Fox News regarding his impending posse revelations...including agreement not to discuss it on the air until the timing is right.
just wrote to Baier to politely request he represent the issue properly.
Interesting. The plot thickens. Things are going to get ugly.
They need to get this out there.
Once again, all kinds of hopes are being raised that *this time* something will happen on the NBC issue. This judge read and clearly interpreted GA law, denied the motion to dismiss, and called for a hearing. That is more than any of the dozens of judges who’ve had eligibility questions put before them has done.
I’m not a lawyer, but will hold off popping the champagne because I don’t think an administrative law judge can interpret what the Framers meant by ‘natural born Citizen.” So far as I know, that is a role reserved to SCOTUS.
This judge can force Obama to produce an original certified copy of his HI birth certificate, and will likely accept that. If so, Obama’s name goes on the GA ballot. I don’t know how such a determination sets up an appeal to SCOTUS.
If, on the other hand, the judge determines that the proffered birth certificate is questionable, or that it is a legitimate birth certificate but clearly shows Obama’s father is “African” and, in that judge’a opinion, that disqualify Obama as NBC, ruling to keep him off the GA ballot, I’m pretty sure Obama can go to SCOTUS. It would certainly force the issue.
Maybe some lawyer can explain the appellate route from a state administrative agency to the SCOTUS if the attempt to keep Obama off the GA ballot fails at that level.
Atty. Van Irion Discusses Georgia Ballot Challenge and the Constitution
He already went there and took care of this for good by his unreported visit with eight out of nine blackest robed judges at SCOTUS on January 14, 2009, one week before his false inaoculation!
This visit tricled down to all the lower courts, State and municipalities!!
One of those eight has clearly said then: "We are evading this", hmmmm. Orly Taitz presented the facts to some State officials not long ago and they went to the backroom and came back and swept the whole thing under the rug!!!
Now Alabama have also put similar issue up for hearing???
It’s a rather telling dissonance that the certificate published late last year is supposed to be a direct scan of the paper document in Hawaii,
but they refuse to let anyone see the actual paper document in Hawaii.
If we’ve already seen it, there is no reason to keep the paper under seal.
To make it even more conspiratorial and cover it up, Hawaii has set Orly’s court hearing in Hawaii purposely on the same day she has the hearing in Georgia!!!
Can you smell a dead RAT???
I was referring to ‘going to SCOTUS’ as a legal procedure, not the traditional pre-Inaugural visit of the president-elect to the Justices, which is hardly secret. It’s part of Inaugural week every time a new POTUS is sworn in. And virtually nothing goes on inaugural week that’s not reported.
IF Obama were denied access to the ballot in GA on this judge’s interpretation of the Constitution, so far as I know, he’d have an automatic right to have a SCOTUS opinion rendered that would affirm or overturn the GA judge’s ruling. It might be the only thing that would force the Court finally to look at and interpret the ‘natural born’ language in the Constitution that they’ve been evading.
Good luck with that!
The January 9, 209 meeting has not been reported, which was BEFORE the “inaguration” which BTW ALSO failed!!
Judge Thomas has clearly said what the nine black robed think...=...EVADING!!!
It must be noted that the "court" in this case is a State Administrative Hearings Judge, who (if my understanding of this is correct) only makes a recommendation on Obama to the Georgia Secretary of State (a Republican). We'll see if the SOS has the guts to deny Obama ballot access if the judge should rule that way.
BOre lied, remember he said he contacted Hawaii and they sent him a copy of the BC?
Hmmm, how could that be?
Why wasn’t Obama Vetted the same way McCain was by a Senate Hearing?
“Remember that under the 1948 BNA if Barry is proved to have a bastard due to the existing marriage of his biological bigamous father Barry could be explicitly excluded from having dual UK citizenship and would only have the unitary USA citizenship of his single mom (assuming birth in the USA)...”
This is true EXCEPT in the case of Kenya, where Islamic polygamy was recognized by the British authorities and the law allowed it in the case of Muslims.
THAT IS WHY SADO WENT TO KENYA TO HAVE HER BABY.
After the 2008 election and the failure of the Conservative Media ( some of whom cry over the Constitution) to report on Obama’s eligibility I completely stopped watching Fox and listening to conservative talk radio. They are actors. They are phonies.
If and when true tyranny comes to the U.S. these yappers will sell their talents to the fascist oligarchy. They will spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.
I disagree.
Hawaii does not recognize bigamous marriages and neither does the UK including Kenya under the Kenya Marriage Act of 1902.
There is no evidence that the Hawaii marriage, if it happened (only reference in the HI divorce supports it...and comments in the INS files) was a Muslim marriage which it would have to have been for it to be a proper Muslin plural marriage.
Obama Sr.’s tribe was not traditionally Muslim and his father only converted by himself, not within the tribe. BHO Sr. was a hard-drinking Communist atheist and rampant sexual predator, not any kind of Muslim at all. BHO Sr. did not even pretend to have multiple Muslim wives in Kenya, only an official big-city white wife and a hidden tribal wife back in the village and some other action on the side where ever he could jump it.
Note that Barry's older brother, Malik...born Abongo, was neither born nor raised Muslim by BHO Sr. who was supporting him, but only converted as an adult and only then did Malik acquire several wives under post-colonial Kenya laws liberalized to enable Muslims greater compliance with Sharia.
Even for Muslim marriages in Kenya, it was a felony to marry outside the marriage contract in 1961.
See Kenya Marriage Act of 1902 paragraph #49:
49. Whoever contracts a marriage under this Act, being at the time married in accordance with native law or custom or in accordance with Mohammedan law to any person other than the person with whom such marriage is contracted, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
kenyalaw.org/family/statutes/...?file=The+marriage+act.pdf
BNA of 1948 Legitimation of persons born out of wedlock:
23.(1) A person born out of wedlock and legitimated by the subsequent marriage of his parents shall, as from the date of the marriage or of the commencement of this Act, whichever is later, be treated, for the purpose of determining whether he is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies, or was a British subject immediately before the commencement of this Act, as if he had been born legitimate.
(2) A person shall be deemed for the purposes of this section to have been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of his parents if by the law of the place in which his father was domiciled at the time of the marriage the marriage operated immediately or subsequently to legitimate him, and not otherwise.
http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm
(2) Subject to the provisions of section twenty-three of this Act, any reference in this Act to a child shall be construed as a reference to a legitimate child; and the expressions father, ancestor and descended shall be construed accordingly.
I don’t give a damn what you think you know: Muslims in Kenya were allowed mutlitple marriages. Obama Sr. was Muslim.
LOL! SADO was just 18 years old. I doubt any of the legalese made any bit of difference to her. She went to Kenya to have her baby there and leave him/her there, only it didn’t turn out that way.
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