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The birthers press on
Renew America ^ | November 23, 2011 | Peter Lemiska

Posted on 11/24/2011 5:19:52 PM PST by STE=Q

In a belated response to the birther movement, earlier this year the White House released Barack Obama's "long form" birth certificate. Everyone believed it would finally silence the birthers; and it did -- for a while. But since then, various independent researchers, as well as experts in graphics, computer software, and scanning equipment, have examined the document and now allege that it shows signs of tampering.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; eligibility; fraud; naturalborncitizen; newhampshire; obama; usurper
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To: butterdezillion

Don’t apologize for the length. It is all valuable information and you have done very hard work.

May your efforts NOT be in vain.


41 posted on 11/24/2011 8:58:45 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Baynative

Aniother thing. When we put our SSN on our tax return, doesn’t the IRS even check that with E-verify? Turbo-Tax Timmy’s agency should have known all along that Obama was using a fraudulent number, since E-verify doesn’t even claim that the number belongs to Obama.

Somebody needs to sue the IRS for not checking obvious fraud and prosecuting it.


42 posted on 11/24/2011 9:02:27 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion; LucyT
The author of the article...

“Peter Lemiska is a freelance writer and former Senior Special Agent of the U.S. Secret Service.”

These guys/gals are trained to the core not to question the “duly elected” president's credentials...while on the job, same as out military.

I find it very interesting that a former Secret Service agent would publicly question Obama’s legitimacy, even after leaving the Service. He would know that these allegations could cause a potentially dangerous hint of hesitancy in the mind of any currently serving SS agents to take a bullet for a guy who possibly never should have been president and could be a total fraud to boot!

43 posted on 11/24/2011 9:35:33 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: STE=Q

44 posted on 11/24/2011 9:54:08 PM PST by RasterMaster ("To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: STE=Q
"Let sleeping dogs lie."

That dog ain't sleeping.

45 posted on 11/24/2011 9:58:34 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Maybe he knows that any thinking person would already have questions, and thinks the guys who would take the bullets deserve to have answers so they can serve in good conscience - like Lakin deserved to be able to serve in good conscience. Obama refused to set his conscience at ease, saying he was “amused” by the whole thing.

How anybody could be “amused” by somebody losing their life savings and career because they listened to their conscience telling them to keep an oath is beyond me. But when you look at the way Nancy Pelosi slams people who have a conscience you recognize that these critters have lost their consciences. When you see the people dead as a result of Fast & Furious, and the cover-ups and lying that every government agency did to obstruct justice, you see that there is no such thing as conscience where these people are concerned, even when it means innocent people will be murdered. Conscience is for quaint little peons who still have to follow the laws.

We are in very, very dangerous territory. Seems like Lemiska may be wise enough to recognize where this is headed. And by not getting bogged down in details he leaves the questions very clear: How can anybody say this doesn’t matter? How can anybody who affirms the rule of law think it is OK to ignore this much evidence as if it was inconsequential? How can anybody trust a system that doesn’t even think its purpose for existing matters?

I’d love to hear Congress, the courts, the media, and law enforcement all answer those very general worldview-based questions. How they can spend all their time arguing over gnats and still openly swallow these blatant camels is an explanation we all deserve to hear from them.

Police in my county spent a couple years and resources to catch a guy in my town who was making fake ID’s for illegals. But we’ve got Obama’s aunt and uncle who are both illegals with social security numbers, and Obama who is using a social security number not issued to him - with NO QUESTIONS ASKED. Why did the law enforcement spend all that time and money to investigate and catch one little guy in my town, while the whole darn country watches 3 Obamas get away with OPEN social security fraud and/or document fraud without consequence? Why go diligently after the gnat when everybody knows that 3 big whopping camels are going down the country’s throat?


46 posted on 11/24/2011 9:58:43 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Mr. K; STE=Q; Seizethecarp; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; ...
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In a belated response to the birther movement, earlier this year the White House released Barack Obama's "long form" birth certificate. Everyone believed it would finally silence the birthers; and it did -- for a while. But since then, various independent researchers, as well as experts in graphics, computer software, and scanning equipment, have examined the document and now allege that it shows signs of tampering. - allege?

Mr. K wrote:

"more like 2 hours- I posted that it was a PDF with layers about 2 hours after I got a copy."

. . . . Article and # 43.

[Thanks for the pings.]

47 posted on 11/24/2011 10:03:32 PM PST by LucyT (We lived in the best of times, in the best place, in all of Human History.)
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To: butterdezillion

It looks like a lot of personnel house cleaning should be done. Think of the people that could be off government payrolls. There is an associated problem in that many murderers would probably have to be released to accommodate the influx of Obama enablers. No new prisons under current budget restraints.


48 posted on 11/24/2011 10:05:04 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

“We’re putting criminals in office ‘cause it’s way too crowded in the jails...”

Randy Stonehill, “Stop the World, I Wanna Get Off”


49 posted on 11/24/2011 10:14:35 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: STE=Q

Where is Donald Trump on this. He should have had this thing checked out immediately and reported the results. What’s with him, you have to wonder.


50 posted on 11/24/2011 10:23:02 PM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: STE=Q
earlier this year the White House released Barack Obama's "long form" birth certificate

No, they did not. This is a flat-out lie about a flat-out lie.

51 posted on 11/24/2011 11:04:01 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Mr. K; sten; butterdezillion; Danae; LucyT
more like 2 hours- I posted that it was a PDF with layers about 2 hours after I got a copy

Readers: take the birth certificate challenge!

Take a copy (official, with raised seal) of your own birth certificate

Scan it to a *.pdf file

Open it and look for the "layers"

Compare with the "birth certificate" *.pdf file of BO from the WH Web site

See the difference? Any layers?

52 posted on 11/24/2011 11:33:09 PM PST by thecodont
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To: butterdezillion

Placemark!


53 posted on 11/24/2011 11:49:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: butterdezillion
This isn’t about Obama; it’s about our stupid, corrupt, criminal government that sees crimes in progress and yawns at best - and more often joins in to commit crimes on behalf of the guilty and persecute the innocent.
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Indeed! It is about the corruption. It is like a well marbled steak. It is embedded throughout the system. The two areas that have disappointed the most are:

1) Our very highest military. How they treated lower level officers was disgraceful. These highest level officers are either stupid or evil. Surely they **know** that Obama has problems with his very identity and citizenship status. Yet...Where is the evidence that they peacefully and lawfully asked for clarification from the courts or congress? When did ignoring forgery and identity theft become part of the military code of honor? Is this how they defend the Constitution and watch the backs of the brave and honorable men and women serving under them? Why do they salute a man, a likely usurper, who issues insane Rules of Engagement and supports factions dedicated to killing our soldiers and American citizens?

3) Our conservative yappers ( that means El Rusbo and the rest). WHAT WEENIES! I will never trust them again. Silly me! I believed them when they said they loved our nation and the Constitution. If and when hard core tyranny comes to our nation, these yappers will sell their talents to the fascist oligarchy. They will lick the boots crushing our necks.

54 posted on 11/25/2011 3:07:29 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: thecodont
not only that, look online for the youtube video that came out the next day showing some idiot scanning a document and having it come up with layers- HE FAKED IT~!!!

his video shows the security paper cross-hatch pattern UNDER the letters in his 'layers'- there is no way the software would know what was under the letters in a layer

This video was pointed to time and again to 'prove' that the BC got layers because of OCR software (another stupid suggestion)

55 posted on 11/25/2011 4:37:15 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: butterdezillion
When you see the people dead as a result ....
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What about the body bags coming home from the Middle East? What about the insane Rules of Engagement and supporting factions who defiantly preach the death of Americans and our soldiers?

Honestly...I am **disgusted** with the very highest military. We know that they are not stupid. They **know** that Obama has multiple social security numbers, They KNOW that he fails e-verify, and that his posted documents are forgeries. Is there any evidence that they peacefully and legal sought clarification from congress and the courts?

So?...Is this how our highest military watch the backs of the men and women serving under them? Is ignoring fraud, usurpation, forgeries, and identity theft now part of the military code of honor? Is this what they teach now at our military academies about uphold their oath to defend the Constitution?

May God save us because the highest military doesn't give a twit.

56 posted on 11/25/2011 6:21:55 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Did he ever work any job before his stint as a Senator?"

I've heard libs claim that he was with a high powered law firm. Apparently, there's not much to that. His life seems to have been all ACORN and socialist indoctrination schools.

57 posted on 11/25/2011 7:18:15 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: butterdezillion
Bears repeating:

Why did the HDP refuse to certify Obama’s eligibility? It was apparently something done hastily and stealthily, because in taking out that one line they also took out the only thing they were required by law to do - sign off on the DNC candidate also being the candidate for the HDP. The HDP refuses to say why they took the eligibility language out. But the attorney they used in litigation for the past decade just so happened to be the divorce lawyer for Obama’s mother; he has probably seen the birth certificate Obama has been using his entire life. For some reason, the lawyers who have the ability to know what Obama’s records actually say.... refuse to certify his Constitutional eligibility.

Thank you for all that you do. Keep up the fantastic work. Justice will prevail. . .

58 posted on 11/25/2011 7:21:57 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: butterdezillion; socialismisinsidious; Polarik; BP2; edcoil; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; AJFavish; ...
Somebody on my blog said that Eric Holder was seen by multiple people meeting with Judge Lamberth shortly before a critical decision.

I wouldn't doubt it. Judge Lamberth, a Reagan appointee, had had a good reputation for integrity and the courage in some cases to rule against Big Brother. A case in point: he ruled, at least in part, for the plaintiffs in a case challenging the legality of Hillary Clinton's Health Care Task Force.

Given Holder's reputation, one can be very cynical as to what his meeting with the judge might have been about.

This recalls the meeting of Obama - accompanied by a photo - with all but one of the Supreme Court justices about the time of Obama's inauguration.

59 posted on 11/25/2011 7:58:42 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Leo Carpathian
It came across to me like Trump had had enough of this nonsense and decided to call Obama out. I thought it was beautiful. Took a lot of heat for it. Didn't seem to mind being called a "birther." Neither do I. That's what the Left does. When they have no answer, they try to belittle and intimidate you.

I've seen where Trump's acknowledged that the BC Obama showed is being called questionable, but that's as far as Trump seems to want to go. It's up to someone else to take it from there. There's a valid case against Obama strengthened by his reluctant and slight-of-hand responses. Regardless of the need for a good-faith pursuit of the truth, everybody's afraid of Obama's re-election committee, the media.

A lot of things come down to a choice between the good-faith pursuit of the truth regardless of the consequences or self-preservation at the possible expense of the truth.

60 posted on 11/25/2011 8:11:42 AM PST by PapaNew
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