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Pedophiles want same rights as homosexuals
Greeley Gazette ^ | 15 October, 2011 | Jack Minor

Posted on 10/16/2011 1:30:18 AM PDT by Watchdog85

Claim unfair to be stigmatized for sexual orientation

by Jack Minor –

Using the same tactics used by “gay” rights activists, pedophiles have begun to seek similar status arguing their desire for children is a sexual orientation no different than heterosexual or homosexuals.

Critics of the homosexual lifestyle have long claimed that once it became acceptable to identify homosexuality as simply an “alternative lifestyle” or sexual orientation, logically nothing would be off limits. “Gay” advocates have taken offense at such a position insisting this would never happen. However, psychiatrists are now beginning to advocate redefining pedophilia in the same way homosexuality was redefined several years ago.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality from its list of mental disorders. A group of psychiatrists with B4U-Act recently held a symposium proposing a new definition of pedophilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders of the APA.

B4U-Act calls pedophiles “minor-attracted people.” The organization's website states its purpose is to, “help mental health professionals learn more about attraction to minors and to consider the effects of stereotyping, stigma and fear.”

In 1998 The APA issued a report claiming “that the ‘negative potential’ of adult sex with children was ‘overstated’ and that ‘the vast majority of both men and women reported no negative sexual effects from childhood sexual abuse experiences.”

Pedophilia has already been granted protected status by the Federal Government. The Matthew Shephard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act lists “sexual orientation” as a protected class; however, it does not define the term.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation;” however, the amendment was defeated by Democrats. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”

The White House praised the bill saying, “At root, this isn't just about our laws; this is about who we are as a people. This is about whether we value one another -- whether we embrace our differences rather than allowing them to become a source of animus.”

Earlier this year two psychologists in Canada declared that pedophilia is a sexual orientation just like homosexuality or heterosexuality.

Van Gijseghem, psychologist and retired professor of the University of Montreal, told members of Parliament, "Pedophiles are not simply people who commit a small offense from time to time but rather are grappling with what is equivalent to a sexual orientation just like another individual may be grappling with heterosexuality or even homosexuality."

He went on to say, "True pedophiles have an exclusive preference for children, which is the same as having a sexual orientation. You cannot change this person’s sexual orientation. He may, however, remain abstinent."

When asked if he should be comparing pedophiles to homosexuals, Van Gijseghem replied, "If, for instance, you were living in a society where heterosexuality is proscribed or prohibited and you were told that you had to get therapy to change your sexual orientation, you would probably say that that is slightly crazy. In other words, you would not accept that at all. I use this analogy to say that, yes indeed, pedophiles do not change their sexual orientation.”

Dr. Quinsey, professor emeritus of psychology at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, agreed with Van Gijseghem. Quinsey said pedophiles' sexual interests prefer children and, "There is no evidence that this sort of preference can be changed through treatment or through anything else."

In July, 2010 Harvard health Publications said, “Pedophilia is a sexual orientation and unlikely to change. Treatment aims to enable someone to resist acting on his sexual urges."

Linda Harvey, of Mission America, said the push for pedophiles to have equal rights will become more and more common as LGBT groups continue to assert themselves. “It’s all part of a plan to introduce sex to children at younger and younger ages; to convince them that normal friendship is actually a sexual attraction.”

Milton Diamond, a University of Hawaii professor and director of the Pacific Center for Sex and Society, stated that child pornography could be beneficial to society because, "Potential sex offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex against children."

Diamond is a distinguished lecturer for the Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco. The IASHS openly advocated for the repeal of the Revolutionary war ban on homosexuals serving in the military.

The IASHS lists, on its website, a list of "basic sexual rights" that includes "the right to engage in sexual acts or activities of any kind whatsoever, providing they do not involve nonconsensual acts, violence, constraint, coercion or fraud." Another right is to, "be free of persecution, condemnation, discrimination, or societal intervention in private sexual behavior" and "the freedom of any sexual thought, fantasy or desire." The organization also says that no one should be "disadvantaged because of age."

Sex offender laws protecting children have been challenged in several states including California, Georgia and Iowa. Sex offenders claim the laws prohibiting them from living near schools or parks are unfair because it penalizes them for life.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apa; childabuse; childmolestation; childrape; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; nambla; pedophiles; pedophilia
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I won’t equate a woman ending her own pregnancy with some pervert sexually abusing one of my grandchildren. This does not in any way mean I support abortion, but there is a difference in my mind.


61 posted on 10/18/2011 9:51:54 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

I am not talking about do it yourself jobs. HINT HINT


62 posted on 10/19/2011 1:02:23 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: SoldierDad

And even if I were talking about do it yourself jobs, she killed (not molested) a baby.


63 posted on 10/19/2011 1:03:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Watchdog85

From the above article: Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-Fl) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law. “This bill addresses our resolve to end violence based on prejudice and to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability or all of these ‘philias’ and fetishes and ‘isms’ that were put forward need not live in fear because of who they are. I urge my colleagues to vote in favor of this rule.”
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcee_Hastings

In 1981, Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering by Frank and Thomas Romano, and of perjury in his testimony about the case. He was acquitted by a jury after his alleged co-conspirator, William Borders, refused to testify in court (resulting in a jail sentence for Borders).

In 1988, the Democratic-controlled U.S. House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413-3. He was then convicted in 1989 by the United States Senate, becoming the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate. The vote on the first article was 69 for and 26 opposed, providing two votes more than the two-thirds of those present that were needed to convict.

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Hastings should NOT be making moral decisions...


64 posted on 10/19/2011 1:15:37 AM PDT by GOPJ (OWS - a scam to shift blame for unemployment and misery away from Obama and dems..)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You take your chances with divine law, you end up loser period.

The bible clearly lays out that "Thou shalt not murder" However it also clearly lays out the rights of the avenger of blood. Someone who molests a child has destroyed that child's life.

They have established themselves as being less than animals, and it is no crime to slaughter a rabid animal.

(I have no problem with abortionists being removed also. Abortion should be recognized as the murder it is and the abortionists should be brought to justice.)

Notice that both abortion and homosexual perversion were legalized in 1973. That was a horrible year.

65 posted on 10/19/2011 5:25:53 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Watchdog85

Seems obvious that most male homos are in fact same-sex pedophiles. They have effectively pushed their hateful, disgusting agenda onto adults and children alike.


66 posted on 10/19/2011 7:18:09 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: little jeremiah

THANKS


67 posted on 10/19/2011 10:35:51 AM PDT by manc ( Marriage=1man+1 woman http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

We agree that abortion is the killing of life, regardless of the stage in which it is committed. But, I see a difference between a fully functioning outside the womb child that is prescient opposed to the early stages of development where there is no prescient functioning. Abortion of a fetus in the later stages of pre-natal development, where the fetus feels pain, I equate with the pain and suffering of an sexually abused child.


68 posted on 10/19/2011 10:58:11 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Oh, and, a child can be “killed” without the loss of physical life.


69 posted on 10/19/2011 11:08:39 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: manc

So many women and men have been ruined by “feminism”.


70 posted on 10/19/2011 12:07:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: John O

What law about homosexuality was passed in ‘73? Was it a fedlaw or state law?

Currently many who need executing are not - rapists, child molestsers (which covers child pornography as well) as well as murderers are rarely if ever executed. It is a crime against the innocent that these criminals are spared.

If justice doesn’t start happening, informal justice may occur.

“Mercy to the cruel, is cruelty to the innocent.”

(Good to see you, I hope you are well.)


71 posted on 10/19/2011 12:12:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

my wife said the same.
She said that they used it to get the woman out of the house, to get away from traditional values and ways.

From there the family falls apart and this is what the left wanted.


72 posted on 10/19/2011 1:25:29 PM PDT by manc ( Marriage=1man+1 woman http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large)
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To: little jeremiah; manc

“Feminism” is just another communist front/tool to destroy traditional values and put more reliance on the state.

Of course, as with all movements that commies use, most of those in the movement had little or no clue that they were being used for another goal that would be antithetical to what they thought they were working for.


73 posted on 10/19/2011 1:32:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Neoliberalnot

I saw the headline and thought

“who didn’t see THIS coming?”


74 posted on 10/19/2011 1:34:27 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: manc

Your wife is a wise woman.


75 posted on 10/19/2011 1:44:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: SoldierDad

Suppose a murder were committed by somehow administering an anesthetic to a person, then slaying them while unconscious. Would that be less than Murder 1?


76 posted on 10/19/2011 1:47:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: little jeremiah

I tell her that all the time , she married me LOL

Seriously thank you for the compliment, I will pass it on to her.

My birthday tomorrow and she is taking the day off so I’m looking forward to that as the kids are in school.


77 posted on 10/19/2011 1:50:04 PM PDT by manc ( Marriage=1man+1 woman http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large)
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To: Watchdog85

And who didn’t see this coming?


78 posted on 10/19/2011 1:53:14 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: SoldierDad

Oh, and a child can be “revived” from such a killing too. Try that with physical life if you aren’t Jesus Christ.


79 posted on 10/19/2011 2:04:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Little Ray

Some of the noise in this sector could be addressed by permitting marital relations at biblical ages (i.e. the 12 for girls and 13 for boys which was copacetic with Moses), but of course marriage itself has been blown galley-west or is poised to do so, making such an accommodation meaningless if it has to be embraced in “gay marriage.” At any rate, it’s going to be hard to sell this to people as “victimless crime.” It would be easier to get the nod to bestiality, at least on condition that the beast involved seems to like it so as not to get ASPCA upset.

Yeah, I’m being cynical. Feel free to insert mocking snickers (mocking at the perverts) as appropriate. I’d personally endorse opening actual marital relations to the youngest biblical supportable age (and NO I do not mean the Koran, so don’t make strawman arguments), but nothing beyond.


80 posted on 10/19/2011 2:11:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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