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Woman sentenced for Wal-Mart choking (Attacked 71-year-old greeter)
wtam.com ^ | September 30, 2011 | n/a

Posted on 09/30/2011 11:53:18 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave

(Elyria) - A judge in Lorain County has sentenced a woman to 15 days in jail for choking a 71-year-old Wal-Mart greeter who asked to see a receipt as the woman left the store.

Elyria Municipal Judge Lisa Locke graves sentenced 49-year-old Toni Duncan on Thursday for what she calls the “absolutely reprehensible” attack last March. Duncan was sentenced after pleading no contest and being found guilty of assault.

According to the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram, the defendant also was ordered to take an anger management course by year's end and stay away from the Elyria Wal-Mart and the victim for five years.

The woman's 23-year-old daughter was sentenced to three days in jail for disorderly conduct and also was ordered to stay away from Wal-Mart for five years.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: blackagainstblack; blackcrime; blackviolence; choking; holderspeople; walmart; walmartchoking
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To: Moonman62
Well, you bring up an interesting point. Due to the activities of shoplifters, I believe Wal-Mart requires that you pay for cell phones...and $12 flash drives, and any number of other items at the register of the department where you find the item. Should I be offended that the ammunition is kept behind locked glass doors? Am I a victim of prior restraint, or just dealing with the reality that people steal things, and this is Wal-Mart's way of dealing with that reality? Were I they, I'd probably put up a sign by the TV's and computers: "In an effort to keep our prices low and thwart the efforts of shoplifters, we may ask to see your receipt when you leave the store with this item."

Being me, I'd probably get loud and ask them if they could prove I didn't steal the underwear I had on, volunteer to go watch any video they had to back up their claim of a stolen cell phone, and inquire as to whose ass I got to kick when I was vindicated. But that's just me. The thing about thieves is that they, too, will profess innocence.

101 posted on 09/30/2011 2:47:33 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Define the problem. Theft of goods?

And then use all those cameras that Wal-Mart has to actually catch the guys doing it. Call the cops, and insist, as a larger taxpayer in the community that they show up quickly. Or hire off-duty cops.

And then bust the perps (internal or external) cleanly and prosecute to the full extent of the law, holding the DA's feet (and future political contributions) to the fire, so he gets serious about it.

Instruct my PR people that we'll get bad PR from the news and that they will be hated, and they should get over it.

Make some examples, hard. Of real bad guys. And watch the problem go away.

If sued for discrimination, fight hard, spend millions, don't give up.

Either that, or close the shop and deal with communities that don't have that problem.

/johnny

102 posted on 09/30/2011 2:48:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: ladyvet

It was the “lol” that tweaked.

If I misunderstood you, my bad.


103 posted on 09/30/2011 2:54:00 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Exactly so. They should have charged her with “elder abuse”. She would have gotten 10 years for that.


104 posted on 09/30/2011 3:02:16 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Oatka

LOL! Some managers have done more damage to their stores than 500 thieves.


105 posted on 09/30/2011 3:04:01 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Not long ago we had a freeper here who proudly described making a total spectacle of himself over the same reason.

One knows going in what the drill is upon leaving, so entering is implied consent to being politely asked for a reciept, which I have no problem with.

OTOH, I stay out of places that I know will treat me like a criminal: airports; bus/train stations; or jails.

106 posted on 09/30/2011 3:19:30 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
According to the 4th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, a warrant is required to search my property, belongings, papers, or effects.

The 4th Amendment limits government power. It has nothing to do with private transactions between retailers and customers. When you go to concerts or sporting events or fly on an airline, you get searched or patted down. These are not violations of the 4th Amendment. You are of course free to avoid these places and events but it has nothing to do with the 4th restricting the power of government.

107 posted on 09/30/2011 4:12:04 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: JRandomFreeper

“According to the 4th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, a warrant is required to search my property, belongings, papers, or effects.”

Twice a week when I board a plan my property, belongings, papers, and body are searched by the government without a warrant.


108 posted on 09/30/2011 4:13:41 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Soul of the South
A Wal-Mart is not a plane. And there is no posted sign saying that I will be searched.

I choose not to be searched. Period. If they force it, they get the civil remedy applied.

/johnny

109 posted on 09/30/2011 4:21:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: beaversmom

I work for a major retailer and we have pretty much the same policy. We have morning meetings near the front door and about 10 of us had to watch someone walk out with 2 expensive items (>$500 each) and could not do ANYTHING. Just noted the items and adjusted the inventory level....


110 posted on 09/30/2011 4:23:58 PM PDT by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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To: SunTzuWu
Wal-Mart has notification of searches? Airports do. Sports events do. It's on the ticket for concerts. Apples and oranges.

That's not Wal-Mart. I choose to not be searched. They don't search me or my property. That's the reality on the ground.

/johnny

111 posted on 09/30/2011 4:24:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: LexRex in TN
So the inaction by the retailer is a policy decision. Let crooks steal stuff, but harass the honest customer.

We've fallen a long way in this country.

/johnny

112 posted on 09/30/2011 4:26:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

The greeter is white.

It was confirmed when it wasn’t mentioned.


113 posted on 09/30/2011 8:30:48 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: LexRex in TN

Sad that people are allowed to get away with it. They know it too. I’ve seen people pulling stuff at Wal-Mart on quite a few occasions, and I’m only a customer. People like you that work at these places must really get an eyeful every day.


114 posted on 09/30/2011 8:57:32 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

We can deter the amateurs...we kill ‘em with customer service and eventually they go someplace where they won’t get that attention...but the pros—they don’t care. They’ll create a diversion or just run out the door, knowing we can’t do a thing.

“My” solution? First off, no cash refunds for no receipt returns, store gift card only. Second, tie that gift card to the ID that is presented when it is returned. There is a thriving business on eBay selling store gift cards. It is the high tech fence...and they usually get around 90% of the face value of the card....much better than they would ever get at a fence.


115 posted on 09/30/2011 9:36:42 PM PDT by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Damn it,you gave me the cart with the wobbly wheel!


116 posted on 11/01/2011 11:31:57 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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