Posted on 09/30/2011 11:53:18 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
(Elyria) - A judge in Lorain County has sentenced a woman to 15 days in jail for choking a 71-year-old Wal-Mart greeter who asked to see a receipt as the woman left the store.
Elyria Municipal Judge Lisa Locke graves sentenced 49-year-old Toni Duncan on Thursday for what she calls the “absolutely reprehensible” attack last March. Duncan was sentenced after pleading no contest and being found guilty of assault.
According to the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram, the defendant also was ordered to take an anger management course by year's end and stay away from the Elyria Wal-Mart and the victim for five years.
The woman's 23-year-old daughter was sentenced to three days in jail for disorderly conduct and also was ordered to stay away from Wal-Mart for five years.
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Amish???
I knows my rhats and this is in that thar Constitution, right next to where it says my food stamps cain’t be late.
That little old lady checkin’ receipts, she’s a jack booted thug for reals. She best not mess with me cause I took both semesters of Karate-by-mail.
All them sheeple a’standin’ in line, why I blows right by ‘em like it was Thunder Road. I have important things to do, like plug the oil leak in the Chevy.
The po-lice know I’m one not to be trifled with. I keep the little card from the back of the comic book what has all my rights listed right there. If I ever get my driver’s license back, I’ll show ‘em.
All the fat girls down to the Wal-Mart thinks I’m a hero. They winks and shakes their booty at me.
Down at the trailer park, I’m a hero there too. I sees ‘em whisperin’ and a’pointin’. I know that they’re talking about how I’m the hero of the whole trailer park.
I’m just awesome, ain’t no doubt about it.
I’m a genuine hero of the revolution.
Or I could just be an asshole.
Maybe Wal-Mart lets me walk on by because they don't want to use force to search my property.
/johnny
Attempted murder results in a 15 day sentence?
There is a difference between voluntarity submitting to a search, and a search being force.
I choose to not be searched. Period.
If you think that is unreasonable, well, too bad.
/johnny
As I was getting a cart at WalMart this noon, a woman set the door buzzer off. She came back into the store with the ‘greeter’ and a manager/security person was summoned. I watched as the security person had the woman swing her purse past the sensor without the alarm going off. Then he asked her to step through again without the purse. She was a skinny woman, older, wearing a baggy sweatshirt and tight jeans. As she stepped through the sensor wave, something ‘wobbled’ under her sweatshirt bulge in the back. and sure enough the sensor went off again. The security person handed her purse to her and told her to go on out. I asked him why he didn’t just reach and feel the object tucked in the baggy portion in back of her sweatshirt and he told me that they are not authorized to touch a customer or frisk them, that police would have to be summoned for that and that the store would be sued for detaining her if the police found nothing.
So, you wouldn't mind presenting evidence to support the contention that it is indeed your property? How many times do you suppose someone's gone into Wal-Mart, purchased items, and returned the same day and tried to walk out with identical items using the same receipt?
I don't care. Because I haven't done that. This isn't second grade where everyone's bookbag has to be searched because Billy brought a twinkie.
Burden of proof is on the accuser. Period.
Besides, I'm willing to leave my reciept there. Just not have my stuff searched.
/johnny
Isn't that the nut of the issue? Whether or not you did in fact purchase the item?
No, the nut of the issue is that Wal-Mart would rather bother honest customers than actually do the things required to single out the real criminals and work with the cops to get them put away.
It would be bad PR, getting sued for discrimination. Worse PR than hassling everyone, anyway.
Wal-Mart is in a no-win situation if they want to make the PC crowd happy.
/johnny
Can you prove it is your stuff?
/johnny
I bought a flat screen monitor at Wal-Mart, recently. The clerk had to wrestle a locked cable through the handle of every box on the shelf. He told me people still managed to steal them. They had been watching one guy, and finally caught him. Thirty-something years old and broke down crying when he was busted. I went through the check-out, and the clerk said “The guy at the door will probably ask to see your receipt.” so I kept it out. He did ask, and I showed it to him. Didn’t feel hassled.
As for getting sued, that same Wal-Mart made the news a few days before because an employee shoved a customer away from another customer who had collapsed and was clearly in distress. Apparently they’re better off if someone dies in their store than if they live and have complications.
Let's suppose you walk in with a cellphone that is an exact model of one they sell in the store. Are you obligated to show them that it's your property?
Yep. Most of the bad guys are well known by the cops and by the staff. So why harass the honest customers?
Lack of intestinal fortitude to be called out by the PC crowd because a certain demographic seems to be over represented.
Sucks to be Wal-Mart. I'd bite the bullet and take the reputation for busting the bad guys hard, regardless of socio-economic status, and the PR and PC fall-out.
And leave the honest customers alone.
/johnny
Just curious here, ladyvet and Christian Engineer Mass:
If that was your Mom or Dad, just doing their job, and they got choked by this fat piece of sh*t gutter animal and her ho whelp, would you STILL “LOL”?
If that were one of MY parents, and they got attacked like that, I’d make it REAL personal for that piece of debris. She’d be looking over her shoulder for the rest of her sorry pathetic excuse for a life.
So how would you solve the problem?
Yes-Any item not bagged needs to be checked against the receipt.
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