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TSA Experience
1 Sept 11 | Self

Posted on 09/01/2011 3:15:10 PM PDT by SLB

Took my son-in-law to the airport in Nashville for his return trip to Afghanistan. My daughter and I got gate passes to see him off. When we got to the TSA security point I was selected to go thru the millimeter wave xray. I told the screener that I did not want to go thru it. She made a big thing of it, repeatedly asking me if I was "opting out" of it. I repeatedly told her I was. She then radioed to her supervisor that she had an "opt out" that needed screening.

After about 4 or 5 minutes a guy showed up and asked me to follow him into a glass enclosed area. I had to pass thru the regular metal detector to get there and did not set it off, but had to have the pat down search anyway. So here I am,a 61 year old, white male slightly overweight and with very blonde hair standing with arms out to my sides and getting patted down. They guy who did it was very polite and we did visit. When he was finished he scanned his rubber gloves for explosives residue. Found none and let me leave. I think the next time I go to the airport I will rub some old expended brass or shotgun shell hulls on my clothes and see what happens. :-)


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To: SLB
I think the next time I go to the airport I will rub some old expended brass or shotgun shell hulls on my clothes and see what happens. :-)

I know you are joking, but, let me tell you about my experience:

I fly 75-90K miles per year and have for many years, spotless record until recently.

Standing in line, pressed for time, the group in front of me (four people) were confused on the procedures and were sorting out their passports and boarding passes. While they did this, four people from the other line (we were in the 'fast track line') went through screening.

I spoke up. Words were exchanged, it got a little loud.

I got to the front and was called into special screening, behind closed doors, questioned and felt up by the TSA. Then I went through.

Next trip................ same thing as to the special screening.

Now I feel as if I am on the list.

21 posted on 09/01/2011 3:53:07 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: SLB
Bad idea, very, very bad idea.

I own a heavy construction company in North Jersey, we do our own drilling and blasting. I have a Federal License to purchase and posses explosives, I also have a license to use them in NJ and NYC, that is a blasting license.

I was on one of our jobs and walked around over the muck pile, shot rock, just after the blast and picker up explosive residue on my loafers.

Two weeks later I went to Newark Airport for a flight to a meeting in Texas. When I past through to scanner, every bell, whistle and flashing light in Newark went off, I was then taken by four heavily armed men to have a more detailed look see, long story short when they saw my documents I was released without any further ado, they were VERY professional and all business. Do not pull their chains.

22 posted on 09/01/2011 4:01:54 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: SLB
After the next 9/11 happens, and it will happen, and TSA will be complicit (some sort of gunwalker-style sting operation), we better move to the Israeli way of doing things; profile, profile, profile.

They NEVER have any problems.

23 posted on 09/01/2011 4:34:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: SLB

needs to be TSA needs to be disbanded, and I mean TODAY.

Janet “Nappy Headed Ho” needs to be called on the carpet, interrogated (preferably with thumbscrews), and then unceremoniously shown the door.

He who gives up a little liberty for security gets neither.


24 posted on 09/01/2011 5:02:13 PM PDT by Walrus (You can't begin a revolution with establishment leaders)
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To: Rumplemeyer

I was on one of our jobs and walked around over the muck pile, shot rock, just after the blast and picker up explosive residue on my loafers.

Two weeks later I went to Newark Airport for a flight to a meeting in Texas. When I past through to scanner, every bell, whistle and flashing light in Newark went off, I was then taken by four heavily armed men to have a more detailed look see, long story short when they saw my documents I was released without any further ado, they were VERY professional and all business. Do not pull their chains.


Yes, My impression is that the swab-scan is about explosive residue, which is very difference from gunpowder residue.

Of course, the TSA-holes will still rummage your suitcase and swab everything for the mere cause that one is declaring a firearms in checked baggage, as if that makes one a more likely suspect.


25 posted on 09/01/2011 5:03:45 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: SLB
My two cents. I've sworn off flying for the duration. If that means I never again step on a commercial airliner, so be it.

I know how I am in dealing with bureaucratic micro-minds, and I have little doubt that I would inflict bodily harm on any Federal drone who attempts to lay hands on me for any reason. So I just avoid the whole stinking mess, and if that means the airlines go bankrupt (which I doubt, since obviously most people put up with this abusive crapola), I won't shed a single tear.

I might have a business conference to attend in a month in half in Cincinnati. That's a two-day drive each way from my locale. But that's the price I'm willing to pay. The meat-bots of the TSA can all burn in hell. Every one of them.

26 posted on 09/01/2011 5:04:52 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Rumplemeyer

There is one reason and one reason only that you cower in fear of the TSA, ........Muslims. Rid the world of Muslims and we can all fly, walk, ride, and live in peace! As long as one single muslim walks the earth no Jew, no Christian, no peaceful person is safe!io


27 posted on 09/01/2011 5:05:15 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Joe Brower; SLB; Squantos; Beelzebubba

I’ve also stopped flying. It’s sort of worked in my travel sched thus far to drive as far as 800 or so miles. Not sure what I’ll do when a coast to coast trip comes up. I’ll probably walk through the xray if it’s an option.


28 posted on 09/01/2011 5:20:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Squantos; Stonewall Jackson

Stonewall Jackson presented an interesting situation. Suppose a person in Vermont or Wyoming or Alaska is carrying a concealed weapon inside his/her waistband, goes to an airport and while in the parking area removes the concealed weapon and stores it. They then are selected for the more advanced screening and “bingo” they show positive for gunpowder residue. Not permit needed, so does the TSA understand or do you end up in a “special” area of the airport?


29 posted on 09/01/2011 5:26:57 PM PDT by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: freedumb2003

My wife, a little lady in her seventies, was stopped because they found traces of explosives on her clothing. They asked if her husband (me) or anyone in her household was a hunter. She said “no” (which is true), so they let her board the plane. Both my brother, who lives with us, and I reload.


30 posted on 09/01/2011 5:39:15 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

>>My wife, a little lady in her seventies, was stopped because they found traces of explosives on her clothing. They asked if her husband (me) or anyone in her household was a hunter. She said “no” (which is true), so they let her board the plane. Both my brother, who lives with us, and I reload.<<

Interesting — ya never know but that isn’t the way to plan. :)


31 posted on 09/01/2011 5:46:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Doc Savage

Be very clear about something Doc, I do not cower in fear of anyone, they are doing their job and doing it, for the most part, very well.


32 posted on 09/01/2011 5:48:33 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: SLB

The two times I’ve had to “opt out”, I did so by dryly observing that “If I’m going to have my Fourth Amendment rights violated, I’d prefer not being irradiated in the process.”

Same silly pat down and running the fingertips of rubber gloves around the waistband and shirt collar then testing for explosive residue.

I’m surprised they don’t get false-positives when farmers fly: I presume nitrate fertilizer will set off their testing gear.


33 posted on 09/01/2011 6:07:22 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
After the next 9/11 happens, and it will happen,

They may blow planes up in the air, but the days of hijackings are over. They have been for ten years.

34 posted on 09/01/2011 6:16:49 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
They may blow planes up in the air, but the days of hijackings are over. They have been for ten years.

My point is that the TSA is security-theater.

Their incompetence will one day be quite apparent.

35 posted on 09/01/2011 6:18:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
My point is that the TSA is security-theater. Their incompetence will one day be quite apparent.

No doubt about that. An "Operation Bojinka" attack (minus the hijackings) could happen tomorrow.

Bojinka

36 posted on 09/01/2011 6:24:46 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: SLB

Just hope I never have to find out...:o)

Good points though.


37 posted on 09/01/2011 6:45:29 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Doc Savage
There is one reason and one reason only that you cower in fear of the TSA, ........Muslims.

I beg to differ. It's because of the knee-jerk reaction of a bunch of cowardly politicians in DC whose main objective is the utter and complete comtrol of the populace of the country.

38 posted on 09/01/2011 6:57:05 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Rumplemeyer
......they are doing their job and doing it, for the most part, very well.

Who? The TSA? Who have they caught? I know for a fact that Al Qaeda laughs at US "security measures".

TSA is nothing more than a jobs program for the chronically unemployed.

39 posted on 09/01/2011 7:01:16 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Travis McGee

I no longer fly too, I drive or stay home. If I had to absolutely, positively, no getting out of it, dammedifIknowwhy had to fly . . . I would charter a GA flight. No TSA there . . .


40 posted on 09/01/2011 7:02:34 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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