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We will use water cannons on them: At last Cameron orders police to come down hard
DailyMail ^ | August 10, 2011 | Emily Allen

Posted on 08/10/2011 5:19:06 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana

David Cameron today gave the go ahead for police to use water cannons on rioters after children as young as nine looted stores and made off with bottles of wine and Vodka in fresh violence that flared around the UK yesterday.

The children wore tracksuits and innocently disregarded covering their faces as they ran through the shattered glass of supermarkets to fill their pockets with looted goods.

But today, the police were given the green light to use water cannons with 24 hours notice. Prime Minister David Cameron said that plans had been put in place to deal with the disorder using water cannons - the first time they have been used in the UK.

The comments were seen as u-turn on what Home Secretary Theresa May said earlier this week when she ruled out the use of water cannons. The 'softly softly' approach has been shelved and police will finally be given the backing to come down hard on offenders.

'Police are already authorised to use baton rounds and we agreed at Cobra that, while they are not currently needed, we now have in place contingency plans for water cannons to be available at 24 hours' notice,' Cameron said in a speech outside Downing Street this morning.

'Whatever resources the police need they will get. What ever tactics they feel they need they will have legal backing to do so.'

Mr Cameron said that the police would be checking offenders 'picture by picture' and they would not let 'phoney human rights' stand in the way of bringing rioters to justice.

He said that something was 'seriously wrong' with society 'when you see children as young as 12 or 13 looting and laughing'.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: crime; england; london; riots
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To: Tennessee Nana

He is.....

day late......$ short


21 posted on 08/10/2011 5:37:59 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: calex59

I think the British government is the “parent” of most of these children. Brits have a huge rate of “single mums,” among both blacks and whites, and of course we all know who has to play Daddy then and support them.


22 posted on 08/10/2011 5:39:00 AM PDT by livius
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To: Tennessee Nana

The scruffy looters could certainly use a bath.


23 posted on 08/10/2011 5:39:40 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Tennessee Nana

Water cannons is “comming down hard”??? Isn’t that just normal police tactics. Want to really stop the riots? Cameron should give police the authority to shoot to kill. Or at least crack some heads. If you see someone stealing a TV out of a store, the police should beat them senseless and then let them go. No jail overcrowding but the message has been sent.


24 posted on 08/10/2011 5:40:00 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Steamburg

I think it’s also to lay the groundwork for “redistribution” of property.


25 posted on 08/10/2011 5:40:20 AM PDT by livius
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To: Tennessee Nana

The key questions in civil unrest have to do with:

a) is the government truly righteous or truly tryannical
b) exactly what is the complaint of the mobs

In this case, the government gives too much towards transfer of wealth, which is truly the government stealing from those who work to give to those who don’t. And the mobs simply desire the same - stealing from those who have rightfully earned.

Cases such as this, if they are not dealt with severely, serve to poison many minds and have them believe the lie for the rest of their lives that this mob thuggery was acceptable. It therefore encourages mob rule and the breakdown of the righteous rule of law.

Accordingly, these mobs really need to be taught the most servere lesson. These riots need to be put down with overwhelming violence, giving no quarter to what amounts to a band of savages.

If the government does not do this, it is abdicating it’s role and citizens will be forced to defend themselves. And the more brutally they annihilate the mobs - of any age - the more the mob will get the message that the mob is wrong and that the mob will not only “lose”, they will all die.

Once the mob is all dead - problem solved, since there would be no mobsters left to hurt, rob or kill anyone.

It’s called self-defense.


27 posted on 08/10/2011 5:45:52 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: Comanche

Most immigrants are no longer the Ellis Island types who looked forward to becoming Americans, embracing America’s culture and being productive citizens. The new immigrants want all of the benefits of being an American while keeping their culture and not working. Couple that with an anti-Western culture such as Islam and you’re screwed.


28 posted on 08/10/2011 5:46:06 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: PowderMonkey
That is exactly what is needed over there. The government has tried to emasculate the country; the people need to take it back.
29 posted on 08/10/2011 5:46:35 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Tennessee Nana
He said that something was 'seriously wrong' with society 'when you see children as young as 12 or 13 looting and laughing'.

You gotta love that understated, subtle British humor.

Idiots. Who do they think created that society? You created a populace of takers while at the same time demonizing producers and then you act surprised when the spoiled brats object to being asked to pay more or receive less.

You've turned them into animals and now they are acting like animals.

Jerks.

And to think there are people in this country that get elected by convincing people we should be more like England.

Bunch of Bidens.

30 posted on 08/10/2011 5:46:48 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Follow that with whips and red-hot irons on the ones they catch


31 posted on 08/10/2011 5:49:12 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama couldn't run a lemonade stand. Let him eat peas!)
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To: dog breath

Seize the streets, shut everything down

Too late. From articles this morning, seventy percent of the shop owners don’t expect to rebuild. Sorta like closing the Hen House after the Fox has left.


32 posted on 08/10/2011 5:49:17 AM PDT by buck61
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To: Tennessee Nana

Poke her with the soft pillows!


33 posted on 08/10/2011 5:50:10 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Tennessee Nana
with 24 hours notice


34 posted on 08/10/2011 5:55:54 AM PDT by tomkat (Sarah '12)
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To: Tennessee Nana

When it’s been so difficult to have the police in the right place at the right time, I doubt they’d be able to have water cannon where needed very often. WC might be effective when a large crowd is protesting in one area, but probably not for these smaller, constantly moving mobs of thugs.

The plastic bullets are more likely to be of some use.


35 posted on 08/10/2011 5:57:30 AM PDT by Will88
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To: nuconvert

Water cannons would be a welcome relief to many of those stuck this summer in the 100 plus temperature in our nations mid section.

Honestly, they say they will do “all that is necessary” to stop the violence. I don’t think they are even are coming close to doing what is necessary. Water cannons and what they call their “last resort” rubber bullets, will be like shooting a supersoaker at a hornets nest. You’re just going to make them more angry and violent. This soft approach got them to where they are today. I can understand their argument for not using the military on their own citizens, but the police need to be breaking up the mobs with tear gas, and announce on loud speakers that looters and arsonist will be shot on sight – and then show them that it is not just talk.


36 posted on 08/10/2011 5:57:37 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Olog-hai

And what the hell happened to the Queen and the royal family. This is one of few the extrordinary circumstances where it is their job and duty to act. I can’t find a news story with any of their names even mentioned and parlaiment is clearly dysfunctional. You think any of the Henrys or Edwards would put up with this crap?


37 posted on 08/10/2011 5:59:57 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: nonliberal
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"Fetch the cushions! And...the comfy chair."
38 posted on 08/10/2011 6:04:57 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Over at the Belmont Club blog, one poster had a good observation:
To many Americans the Second Amendment has always been interpreted as a mechanism for the citizens to be able to revolt against a government that oppresses them. This is true, but it really misses or deflects the point.

An armed citizenry can defend itself, as is their right to do. When the government is allowed to take a total monopoly on the use of force they don’t have to actively oppress you. They can let the barbarians do that and cow you by their intentional failure to protect you. You want police protection do you? You dirty peasants didn’t pass the last bond issue to raise the salaries of the public servants so we are going to quit responding to petty things like burglaries. That will teach you. And don’t dare hurt a burglar, or you will go to jail.

Do you see the pattern?


39 posted on 08/10/2011 6:11:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: wolfman23601
You think any of the Henrys or Edwards would put up with this crap?

Don't know about the current lot but I bet Churchill would had Vickers machine guns at every intersection

40 posted on 08/10/2011 6:13:28 AM PDT by Charlespg
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