Posted on 06/28/2011 5:23:58 PM PDT by SJackson
As Wisconsin heads toward lifting a ban on carrying concealed weapons, researchers at the University of California-Davis have turned up some unsettling information about those who may take advantage of the law.
In a study using 15-year-old data -- the most recent available -- published online in the journal Injury Prevention, the UC Davis Violence Prevention Research Program says those who carried concealed weapons or who had confronted someone with a gun were twice as likely to be heavy drinkers than non-gun owners. Gun owners who drove with loaded weapons were four times more likely to hop behind the wheel after drinking "perhaps too much," and those who didn't travel with a gun were twice as likely to drink and drive.
The study, released last week, came up with these conclusions by analyzing telephone survey results from 15,000 people in eight states. It comes as Wisconsin heads toward adoption of its own concealed carry law, which will make it the 49th state to legalize carrying loaded, concealed firearms, much to the consternation of some local officials.
The Senate passed the controversial proposal last week, and the Assembly was slated to take it up today.
Gov. Scott Walker is expected to sign the bill.
Research, UC-Davis/Madison style. Reach a conclusion, search for something to back it up. If it's a 15 year old telephone survey, so be it. I'd love to know the demographics of the survey. Needless to say we're not talking legal concealed carry, not necessarily legal gun owners at all.
This is “academentia” on parade, in all its transparent duplicity.
Correlation is passed off as causation, and the chasm between the hard sciences and the soft sciences is made unambiguously clear.
Meanwhile, back in the Legislature, the maunderings of the academented were ignored by voter and Legislator alike.
;-)
Crap. Pure, unadulterated pseudo-academic horse manure.
There are tens of millions of Americans who both own and carry firearms; any attempt to “generalize” about their personalities and/or psychologies is bullsh*t.
In fact, it’s worse than that - this is merely a shameless lie.
All ways use the numbers that agree with your bias.
Follow the money trail, who paid for the study?
Yeah, that's a group I can rely on
Precisely, how many farmers were sampled?
For them? Drug dealers, and crackheads would skew the results for what they need.
HAAH HAHHA HAAA HAA HAAAA!
If any of this were true the meatheads would be parading the accident statistics. In my travels armed men tended to be more calm and reasoned, and I only know of one episode where we had to disarm a drunk.
I’ll add to that list:
“Gun owners are many times more likely to survive home invasions.”
Well duh... you can’t keep yourself disarmed in an area full of hoodrat hooligans. You might as well say “Please, take my wallet, I cannot defend myself”.
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In a study using 15-year-old data — the most recent available — published online in the journal Injury “Prevention, the UC Davis Violence Prevention Research Program says those who carried concealed weapons or who had confronted someone with a gun were twice as likely to be heavy drinkers than non-gun owners. Gun owners who drove with loaded weapons were four times more likely to hop behind the wheel after drinking “perhaps too much,” and those who didn’t travel with a gun were twice as likely to drink and drive.”
Goodness this is pure bull hockey. I don’t currently, but when I used to carry a concealed weapon.....I was ALWAYS at my very best behavior. The classes I took made it very clear that carrying a weapon brought with it great responsibility....and that made me VERY careful never to even be rude while carrying. So, I’m inclined to think this is nonsense. Also, most states run full checks on someone before issuing a permit. IF a person had a “risking behavior” personality, it would have showed up in arrest records, etc.
I think the opposite is true. Persons who carry tend to be more responsible members of the community.
“An armed society is a polite one.”
Can we get a study on risky behavior by those who carry KY Jelly? How about people who carry bong pipes?
Huh? Two groups - travel with guns, don't travel with guns.
One is four times as likely (perhaps), the other is twice as likely (unqualified as perhaps).
Huh?
Ignore liberals, and their research, which is always tainted, if not downright fraudulent. Principles are better. Men have the right and responsibility to defend themselves, their families, neighbors, communities and nation against criminals and thugs, including those created by government. Things will be better when men accept that responsibility.
They're right. I got this on friend who carries a gun everywhere he goes and he is always jumping out of airplanes, he has gone to two different war zones (that I know of and a few I'm pretty sure of but he can't tell me about), he crawls around in the dark getting as close as he can to people who want to kill him so he can point a laser at them all the while waiting for some other damn fool to drop explosives on him from 20,000 feet while traveling at mach 1.
There might be something to this study
More of their social engineering==trying to equate gun ownership with dysfunction.....Truly dysfunctional people believe government is telling the truth and they believe all their agitprop and lies...statistics are just lies...they are always manipulated to get a certain result and these stats were created by people trying to discredit gunownership-—the only thing which guarantees private property and freedom of speech.
This is Marxist cr*pola again.....all polls are social engineering...know who design the questions...it is psychologically designed to shape the way the masses think.
Maybe they were heavy drinkers because they were attacked once, and then armed themselves to avoid a second “event.”
I know of one rape victim who subsequently joined 2nd Amendment Sisters, after that earth shattering personal tragedy.
Typical BS propaganda lies.
I own many firearms, I don’t drink at all.
Can’t get a CCW because the Sheriff is anti-2nd amendment, but I would if I could.
Oh, wait - they didn't need to do that. It might have kept them from reaching their desired "conclusion".
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