Posted on 06/26/2011 8:33:12 PM PDT by Flavius
EW YORK, June 26 (Reuters) - The Obama administration is considering requiring all new cars and trucks sold in the United States to get an average of 56.2 miles per gallon by 2025, The Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday.
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This will probably be null and void in a year and a half when we get a real president.
I would die before I let someone do that to me as part of their “sustainability and redistribution” agenda....
56.2 mpg and we must use fuel that cannot possibly allow us to do that.
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Hundreds of useless eater EPA bureaucrats are making a desperate attempt to make it look like they actually do some work from 9-5 instead of surfing for porn. This is a ridiculous mileage standard and has nothing to do with the real world. But it keeps them big Federale paychecks coming to the lard asses, the liberal arts majors and affirmative action hires that is the EPA swamp. Good luck getting an EPA job in DC if you are a white male and not gay.
Oh please! That’s a 50 percent increase over your 39 mpg highway mileage! Not going to happen unless the massively cheat on the MPGe calculations.
Never though if that. My SUV, coasting down hill will show 60-70 MPG on the “instant MPG” display. Touch the gas and it goes right back down to a realistic figure.
[However, developments in ultracapacitor batteries means they can be charged from a high-power commercial charging station and still be able to withstand potentially tens of thousands of recharge cycles without damaging the battery. ]
Where are tese ultracapacitors in operation, right now, in te real world? They have their own limitations, espcially regarding heat.
But the bigger problem is that you believe high power charging stations are going to appear. That implies stringing a huge amount of powerline infrastructure. It also mens building a huge amount of generating capacity when we can’t build squat by EPA decree. I’m just telling you, electric cars aren’t happening anytime soon.
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Where are these ultracapacitors in operation, right now, in the real world? They have their own limitations, espcially regarding heat.
But the bigger problem is that you believe high power charging stations are going to appear. That implies stringing a huge amount of powerline infrastructure. It also mens building a huge amount of generating capacity when we can’t build squat by EPA decree. I’m just telling you, electric cars aren’t happening anytime soon.
I agree. Hybrids will be able to deliver this kind of MPG by 2025. That’s good timing, because the Peak Oil Malthusians tell us we’ll be completely out of oil by then. ;’)
Battery technology has improved because of mobile electronics. The incentive to increase MPG will come from the sticky-downward OPEC price spiral. Vehicles for commuting will wind up one or two seaters (and the seats will probably be tandem, rather than side by side, at least in some models). New, lighter materials will also arise, fueled by the continued market for larger vehicles which also get better fuel economy. Metallic foams can be made in microgravity, but Mercedes was prototyping some metallic foams made down here on the surface.
Also, the CAFE idea was always pretty lame, and didn’t accomplish anything — the fivefold increase in crude did all the work. Auto weights dropped by half, and the aerodynamics improved; some of the weight decrease came in the form of smaller engines, which allowed fewer cylinders, smaller, lighter alternators, and the end of older-style sealed beam headlights (headlights are usually halogen now,which run hotter but give more light for the juice).
Another thing that will no doubt happen is, waivers and revisions to the requirement, among other things issued to hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, which will not get this kind of fuel economy because of the problem getting hydrogen density to a practical level. Liquid fuels have more energy than gaseous fuels; looking at the molecular energy potential doesn’t give a true picture.
It does on a molar basis, but not on a voluminar basis, which is what concerns automotive engineers.
Cheers!
It will happen. Who would have imagined a few years back that big luxury cars would get 27 mpg. It will happen. Technological advancement is a wonderful thing. Don’t be afraid of it. We don’t wan to go back to living in caves.
Fine
And the magic grid will power it all
Try electricity generated by thorium reactors. The potential is there.
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