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If God Is So Just ....
Sunday, June 12, 2011 | cc

Posted on 06/12/2011 2:07:34 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

... why does he let the creeps succeed?

An outright fraud like Barack Obama gets elected, keeps spreading his lies and destruction, and keeps living the high life, with no penalty - on the contrary, all he gets is widespread praise for being so great. Bill Clinton gets worldwide "respect and adulation" as some sort of elder statesman, laughing all the way. Sandy Berger is a brazen thief, yet suffered no penalty. And on and on, every day....

Meanwhile, good people like Sarah Palin are routinely trashed and ridiculed, while their attackers endure no consequences, and are even rewarded - Joy Behar has her own show, for Pete's sake! Olberman is allowed back. Weiner gets a free pass for his creepy behavior. And Herman Cain will get trashed, with his attackers again getting off scot-free.

Where's the damn justice? And don't give me the line about "it'll be settled in the afterlife", these moral violations occurred in THIS world, why aren't they squared up in this world too?

Does this mean God isn't fair and just? Or maybe there's really no God at all?

I WANT to beleieve, but after what I've seen in the last few years (and continue to see now) I'm so confused and angry. Have I just been lied-to all these years??


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To: canuck_conservative

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Canuck conservative - we take for granted the freedom we have enjoyed. Very few on earth have had what we have. We are being put to the test now. I am going to order this book. It’s time for us all to WAKE UP as you are now. Nothing is handed to us on a silver platter like we assumed freedom is.


61 posted on 06/12/2011 5:58:25 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: canuck_conservative

Because God gave us complete freedom of choice. How would we grow and mature as humans if God chose everything for us? Our leaders, whom we married, where we lived, what car we drove, etc etc. - where would be the challenges to overcome?

While there are some things I wish that God would do for us, I’m glad he was loving enough to let us choose our own way in life.


62 posted on 06/12/2011 6:01:15 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
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To: canuck_conservative
Here is some good advice ...

If You’re Going Through Hell, Keep Going

63 posted on 06/12/2011 6:02:30 AM PDT by Gritty (Would you condemn me to justify yourself? - God to Job, Job 41:8)
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To: canuck_conservative

2 Thessalonians 2
The Man of Lawlessness
1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.


64 posted on 06/12/2011 6:15:18 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Bean Counter

That’s good, I really like Far Side.


65 posted on 06/12/2011 6:17:55 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite ( 1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: USS Alaska; canuck_conservative

“You want the hand of God to satisfy you here and now, and you sound like a teen aged, spoiled, liberal Canadian.”

That’s not very Christian of you to verbally attack and chastise a person who only asked a question, is it?


66 posted on 06/12/2011 6:19:44 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Jesus was treated unjustly by men on this earth, he was brutally killed. Why do you expect justice here on earth?


67 posted on 06/12/2011 6:22:25 AM PDT by disclaimer
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To: demshateGod; canuck_conservative

>>”We all deserve eternity in Hell...<<

Why?


68 posted on 06/12/2011 6:23:06 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: canuck_conservative
Evil hates good, which results in a lot of bad stuff that happens.

God gave us all free will. He is not responsible for all the decisions made by people. And although He will sometimes intervene in a situation, He is under no obligation to do so.

69 posted on 06/12/2011 6:29:58 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: panaxanax

“... to verbally attack and chastise a person who only asked a question”.

May I add that this question is one that has been asked for generations and generations. There are dark periods in our lives. Some VERY dark. We lose innocent children, families, jobs, etc... and then we wonder. We wonder if God is testing us or if He isn’t just allowing the world to do what it wants. I think it is a normal process in our faith. As humans, we have to question what faith is really about in order to have it. It is an evolving process and not automatic like eye color, for example. I personally don’t know too many people who haven’t questioned “Does God dislike me” when dealing with extreme situations and sadness. IMHO


70 posted on 06/12/2011 6:30:34 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: panaxanax
>>”We all deserve eternity in Hell...<<

Why?

Because we are ALL sinners. The only one without sin was Jesus. It is through his grace that we, as believers, are saved from eternity in Hell.

71 posted on 06/12/2011 6:35:03 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: momtothree

Thank you, mom.


72 posted on 06/12/2011 6:39:52 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: canuck_conservative

“If God Is So Just why does he let the creeps succeed?”

Because God makes His decisions based on eternity not the temporal world in which we live. Sometimes what goes on down here doesn’t make sense to us because we can’t see the beginning and the end of each person’s life. God is the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. We’re not. In the long term, no one will get away with anything. That’s perfect justice.


73 posted on 06/12/2011 6:45:35 AM PDT by Bed_Zeppelin
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To: freedumb2003
...which means he allows Satan to create liberals.

The only thing Satan creates are lies.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

And liberalism descends from that first lie: "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

In this sense we are all liberals, because we believe in that first lie:

Romans 3
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

74 posted on 06/12/2011 6:57:41 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: canuck_conservative
This thread is so full of free willers it kind of creepy, It appears you free willers are hate full of calvinists to the point you have to state the fact you are free willers and preach free will. I doubt if I could be in deep fellowship with any of you free willers, the fact that you state it and preach it basically means you hate calvinist, and rejected the first point of calvinist of total depravity. You judge someone whether they are Christian by what they have done. AKA for have you accepted God/Jesus, of course that just gets you in the door of acceptance for you free willers. After that there is a whole list of things you must do to keep that status of Christian and if you don't then they label you as either never was, or you have lost your salvation. No wonder the world is polarizing into Church goers and Non Christians that hate the living day lights out of each other. God is hardening the hearts of the Church goers to hate those that state they are non-Christian and don't want anything to do with them, and he is hardening the hearts of those that want nothing to do with these so called Christian church goers to the point that they will reject any truth that might so happen to slip out of the church. As I have composed this rant and rave I've been debating whether I want to reponse to any of the free willer flame throwers that will probably flame me to I'm toasty burnt, I have decided that I will try to refrain from responseding to you free willers as it is vanity to do so, and too time consuming for me. I need to get off FR for now and get some breaksfast and get a shower and try to get something done today, and not let you free willers get me all bent out of shape and hatefully like you all ready are.
75 posted on 06/12/2011 6:59:11 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite ( 1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Abby4116

So true, but that does raise a whole bunch of philosophical questions in the minds of many.


76 posted on 06/12/2011 7:04:24 AM PDT by ngat
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To: Rocky
thanks for posting the scripture, have read it, have printed it out and hopefull will mediate on it even more as the day goes by.
77 posted on 06/12/2011 7:04:29 AM PDT by ReformedBeckite ( 2 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Theophilus
The only thing Satan creates are lies. John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And liberalism descends from that first lie: "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." In this sense we are all liberals, because we believe in that first lie: Romans 3 9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

When were you ever given the opportunity to hear and believe the serpent's enticement to Eve? I really really do not get this notion or theory that anyone other than Eve fell for this lie? Now, that is NOT to say that very same 'spirit' is NOT rampant throughout the world of liberalism, which in literal terms is that man/woman in flesh bodies believe they can do things 'better', than God's Holy Way. That in the most simplest terms means against Christ.

78 posted on 06/12/2011 7:05:17 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Theophilus

>>...which means he allows Satan to create liberals.
The only thing Satan creates are lies.<<

Excellent theology, but you might be over-parsing and under-valuing.

Modern liberals are racist, sexist, condescending megalomaniacs. They sacrifice principle on the altar of expediency.

Sound like the father of lies to you? It does to me.


79 posted on 06/12/2011 7:06:19 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003
The only thing Satan creates are lies.

That's because the Truth was already created. Besides, in my experience, that's also the only thing liberals create.

80 posted on 06/12/2011 7:11:23 AM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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