Posted on 05/25/2011 11:46:22 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
Nearly half of Americans say that they definitely or probably couldnt come up with $2,000 in 30 days, according to new research, raising concerns about the financial fragility of many households.
In a paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research, Annamaria Lusardi of the George Washington School of Business, Daniel J. Schneider of Princeton University and Peter Tufano of Harvard Business School used data from the 2009 TNS Global Economic Crisis survey to document widespread financial weakness in the U.S. and other countries.
The survey asked a simple question, If you were to face a $2,000 unexpected expense in the next month, how would you get the funds you need? In the U.S., 24.9% of respondents reported being certainly able, 25.1% probably able, 22.2% probably unable and 27.9% certainly unable. The $2,000 figure reflects the order of magnitude of the cost of an unanticipated major car repair, a large copayment on a medical expense, legal expenses, or a home repair, the authors write. On a more concrete basis, the authors cite $2,000 as the cost of an auto transmission replacement and research that reported low-income families claim to need about $1500 in savings for emergencies.
Financial fragility isnt limited to low-income groups. Households with socioeconomic markers of vulnerability (income, wealth, wealth losses, education, women, families with children) are more likely to be financially fragile, and substantially more so, the authors write. The more surprising finding is that a material fraction of seemingly middle class Americans also judge themselves to be financially fragile, reflecting either a substantially weaker financial position than one would expect, or a very high level of anxiety or pessimism. Both are important in terms of behavior and for public policy.
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It's a major prize!
I work with several people that are overdrawn every day before payday, don’t have taxes taken out of their checks, withdraw money from 401K; yet they make at least 2 trips to starbucks everyday, eat lunch out everyday, and on payday rush out at lunch to purchase something they don’t need.
$7.25 is basically zero? Huh?
What-a-you a socialist ?? :)
Maybe that used to be true, but not anymore. Governmant wages are as high or higher than private wages, plus they have pensions that are mathematically unsustainable and health care on top of that?
Also when comparing wages, what you do and the requirements for the job has to be in the comparison.
You're obviously living in a different world than I am. There's no way I could come up with $2K in 30 days, no matter how dire the emergency was. Thank goodness we're somehow holding it all together.
Oh? Don't get me started.
When the crash hits, $2000 will only be work $20.
Get a new sofa this weekend. They’ll probably have a “No payments until ... some months down the road,” and you can pay for it when it’s billed. Or even (don’t tell Dave!) in a couple of installments. You can have zero debt and a million in savings, and DIE. Boy, that was a thrill getting financially fit!
And before everyone jumps on me, I’m not advocating being fiscally feckless. I’ve got in-laws for that. I’m just saying that there’s a time to think about now, and that time is when you’re pregnant and the sofa is poking you in the backside.
LOL
Of all those things you mentioned, I only have the cell phone, and yes, I'm one of those who couldn't come up with the $2K in 30 days.
Me and mine aren't getting a dime of help from anyone.
Now there's a real knee slapper!
Fortunately, there are private businesses that pay well enough that their employees can build up savings. And some of those workers are smart enough not to live in the biggest house and drive the fastest car and take the fanciest vacations. And so, one morning nearing retirement age, they wake up and suddenly realize they make more $$ before they get out of bed than from their well-paying job. Of course, that really pisses the Donks off!
The reason that the government employees can still get pay checks is because they receive such a low amount of money. For example a GS-5 gets 2,100 dollars a month. Who can even live on that?
It's probably true that the worst abuses in government are at the state and local level. However, according to McPaper, The typical federal worker is paid 20% more than a private-sector worker in the same occupation.
Here's a table from that article:
Job Federal Private Difference Airline pilot, copilot, flight engineer $93,690 $120,012 -$26,322 Broadcast technician $90,310 $49,265 $41,045 Budget analyst $73,140 $65,532 $7,608 Chemist $98,060 $72,120 $25,940 Civil engineer $85,970 $76,184 $9,786 Clergy $70,460 $39,247 $31,213 Computer, information systems manager $122,020 $115,705 $6,315 Computer support specialist $45,830 $54,875 -$9,045 Cook $38,400 $23,279 $15,121 Crane, tower operator $54,900 $44,044 $10,856 Dental assistant $36,170 $32,069 $4,101 Economist $101,020 $91,065 $9,955 Editors $42,210 $54,803 -$12,593 Electrical engineer $86,400 $84,653 $1,747 Financial analysts $87,400 $81,232 $6,168 Graphic designer $70,820 $46,565 $24,255 Highway maintenance worker $42,720 $31,376 $11,344 Janitor $30,110 $24,188 $5,922 Landscape architects $80,830 $58,380 $22,450 Laundry, dry-cleaning worker $33,100 $19,945 $13,155 Lawyer $123,660 $126,763 -$3,103 Librarian $76,110 $63,284 $12,826 Locomotive engineer $48,440 $63,125 -$14,685 Machinist $51,530 $44,315 $7,215 Mechanical engineer $88,690 $77,554 $11,136 Office clerk $34,260 $29,863 $4,397 Optometrist $61,530 $106,665 -$45,135 Paralegals $60,340 $48,890 $11,450 Pest control worker $48,670 $33,675 $14,995 Physicians, surgeons $176,050 $177,102 -$1,052 Physician assistant $77,770 $87,783 -$10,013 Procurement clerk $40,640 $34,082 $6,558 Public relations manager $132,410 $88,241 $44,169 Recreation worker $43,630 $21,671 $21,959 Registered nurse $74,460 $63,780 $10,680 Respiratory therapist $46,740 $50,443 -$3,703 Secretary $44,500 $33,829 $10,671 Sheet metal worker $49,700 $43,725 $5,975 Statistician $88,520 $78,065 $10,455 Surveyor $78,710 $67,336 $11,374 Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, USA TODAY analysis
What's GS-5 comparable to in the private sector?
This is a quote from the fictional founder of the Sons of Anarchy motorcycle gang (pretty good TV show, at least the first 2 seasons):
"True freedom requires sacrifice and pain. Most human beings only think they want freedom. In truth, they yearn for the bondage of social order, rigid laws, materialism. The only freedom man really wants is the freedom to be comfortable."
Sorry, my FRiend, but that just isn't true --- I'm speaking from experience.
I prefer Close to the Edge.
Still.
You have made a CHOICE to live as you do. I don’t know why you chose to live poorly, but - ultimnately - you made the decision to live as you do. Rich? Poor? That’s up to you.
I’m not judging you, but you have made a life-time of choices to get to where - in 2011, you can not come up with $2,000.
I hope you’re happy at least. Better to live happy and poor than unhappy and rich.
look like the list is pretty 50-50. I still believe that government workers (biggest employer in the U.S. except Walmart) pays peanuts for the most part. A GS-5 is the beginning of the middle management. The pay grades go from GS-1 to GS-15. Majority of jobs in the government are GS-5 to GS-7. Basically from 2100 a month to 3300 a month. Hardly living off the hog. By the way a Walmart employee makes around 2500 dollars a month....way more than a GS-5 and below.
And we live in a crappy double-wide. We drive used cars. Half of my clothes were bought at goodwill and the other half are from wally world.
I know that people have to look at us and think, “poor;” but we're doing better than most anyone I know. We have money in savings, can handle any unexpected expense, own an investment property and are currently saving for our first real vacation... ever. In a year, we're giving away *everything* we own in the house and getting all new dishes, linens, furniture, curtains, electronics, etc. In three months, we'll have the money set aside for that.
But, from the outside looking in, we're white trash.
I do love being weird!!
I hears this on the news this morning. Im not rich by any means $34,000 a year. If I had to quickly raise $2000 they only problem Id have would be choosing between savings, checking or credit card.
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