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Former Marine killed by SWAT was acting in defense, family says
kgun9.com ^ | May 11, 2011 | Joel Waldman

Posted on 05/11/2011 4:48:15 PM PDT by WaterBoard


Jose Guerena, 26, was killed when a SWAT team came to his house to serve a search warrant


Guerena's wife, Vanessa, said the SWAT team did not identify themselves


Thinking it was a home invasion, Guerena got his rifle

Now, Pima County Sheriff's officials are refuting original claims that Guerena fired at the SWAT members. In fact, they confirmed his safety was still on when his gun was recovered. Also, officials said that reports that some SWAT officers' shields were riddled with bullets are also untrue.

SWAT gunned Jose down with 71 rounds fired in just about seven seconds; officials said they did not expect Vanessa to be home with their four-year-old son, Joel, who ended up witnessing his dad's death. Now he has questions about what happened, like so many others.

"The only thing he asked me, 'Mom, my dad a bad guy? They killed my dad! Police killed my dad? Why? What did my dad do?'" explained Guerena.

Jose's relatives want his children to know he did his best to be a great husband, dad and patriot.

(Excerpt) Read more at kgun9.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: corruption; debt; donutwatch; dupnik; economy; guerena; joseguerena; marine; murder; pimacounty; shtf; swat; teotwawki; thinblueline; tucson
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To: mnehring

This so called war on drugs has claimed another innocent life. You would think a nation could tell when a war is lost. I think 30-40 years of losing is enough.
But hey, prohibition makes for a lot of government jobs, which just means more and more things need to be banned. Pretty soon they will be knocking down doors in SF when a parent gives sugar to a fat kid.


21 posted on 05/11/2011 5:20:13 PM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Myrddin
Waterboard them first.

Isn't that what we do to terrorists?

Or a Predator drone...

NO cheers, unfortunately.

22 posted on 05/11/2011 5:23:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Clump

“This so called war on drugs has claimed another innocent life. You would think a nation could tell when a war is lost. I think 30-40 years of losing is enough.”

Unfortunately, the statists on the left and right agree on this issue.

(And, no, I don’t use drugs.)


23 posted on 05/11/2011 5:27:43 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Clump

Time to do away with swat team nazis. They want to be special forces, we should round them all up and send them to Afghanistan. Sorry, I’ve just had my fill of this bullshit. This happens just WAY TOO OFTEN. Even the EPA has a swat team.


24 posted on 05/11/2011 5:28:22 PM PDT by TStro
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To: from occupied ga

SWAT thugs strike again. Every damned one of them should be fired and brought up on charges. Too bad the Marine didn’t cap a few of them.


25 posted on 05/11/2011 5:28:26 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: from occupied ga

Thugs with badges invaded the home.


26 posted on 05/11/2011 5:28:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: WaterBoard

Again I ask “When will the people get enough?”


27 posted on 05/11/2011 5:29:00 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: WaterBoard

At least they didn’t shoot the dog!/s


28 posted on 05/11/2011 5:29:18 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: WaterBoard
Ironically, it is acts like this by the drug warriors that will eventually end the war. They just haven't killed someone important enough yet.

These murderers will walk and leave the taxpayer with a huge bill.
29 posted on 05/11/2011 5:30:45 PM PDT by microgood
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To: WaterBoard

They are dead meat for a legal fight. That safety setting is the death of them. Mother effing liars. They ought to be strung up and hung. Or better yet, allowed to go home, and then have a bunch of armed people burst into their home and fire a few magazines of bullets into them.

Sons of bitches.


30 posted on 05/11/2011 5:31:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Kartographer
Ping, with a few of today’s headlines and links. I’m surprised that not many people are prepping for self-sufficiency at this time, even though many corporate and government offices are installing gigantic PV solar arrays in cloudy climates, installing more living arrangements for employees, more sophisticated security systems,... And rich, liberal corporate-government administrators are buying outrageous numbers of private weapons.

The news makes me want to work harder to finish arrangements for avoiding co-called civilization for an extended period. The non-preppers, IMO, are crazy. ;-)


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31 posted on 05/11/2011 5:32:32 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: WaterBoard

That Marine instinctively tried to protect his family from a bunch of SWAT thugs. Unbelievable.

This is a home invasion—execution style from government thugs.


32 posted on 05/11/2011 5:33:19 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: microgood

If they ever actually used SWAT the way they sold SWAT to the public this kind of bullsh1t would not happen. The only places they would be raiding would be known drug houses, the houses all the cops know are gang headquarters. They would be going in en masse, into fortified drug houses and gang lairs and blowign away the scum.

That is where they said SWAT was going to be used. Not for this civillian bullsh1t.


33 posted on 05/11/2011 5:33:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Terry Mross

When will the people get enough of State tyranny? Ummm....when we see neighbors uniting together against tyranny and mowing down SWAT teams that are invading.


34 posted on 05/11/2011 5:33:58 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: mnehring

“Authorities told KGUN9 that three other neighborhood homes were targeted Thursday, all tied to a narcotics conspiracy. They say a large amount of cash was found at one of the homes. But, not at the Guerena house; all they said they found there was “evidence pertinent to the case.” At this time, officials aren’t saying anything more. However, Vanessa Guerena has insisted there were no drugs or money in their home.”


35 posted on 05/11/2011 5:37:30 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I’m sure bullets were flying fast and reckless from God only knows how many different weapons and angles... bullet ricochets were all but certain.

The way homes are built these days, bullets will punch through one wall and then through a neighbor's wall like a sharp pencil through tin foil. Amazing nobody else got killed.

36 posted on 05/11/2011 5:37:57 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: iontheball
SAWT team hit the wrong house, I bet.

That's because they use scumbags for informants, like most 3rd rate PD's around the country, every now and then, they use a no-knock warrants against a BS story and get their butts blown off. It happens a lot more than the state run media wants you to know. Unfortunately, in this case, it was the resident.

37 posted on 05/11/2011 5:38:02 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: WaterBoard

“It is interesting that the police initially lied to the public and still have a job.”

From what I have observed in these cases, if you don’t have video, those responsible will just do a rope-a-dope until the public heat dies down, then it’s back to business.

Keeping your video out of the hands of the jackboots seems to be the key.


38 posted on 05/11/2011 5:39:48 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: WaterBoard
Read this...
 

SWAT team fired 71 shots in raid

Friends - this was an ASSASSINATION!!

Lets see. They fired 71 shots. He fired 0. This was no accident. This was no mistake. This was intentional. This was murder.

39 posted on 05/11/2011 5:41:45 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I'm a Birther - And a Deather)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
When will the people get enough of State tyranny?

Far too many conservatives and Freepers love this sort of thing, anytime the cops get all Ramboed up and go kick in a door in the name of the war on done drugs...

40 posted on 05/11/2011 5:41:50 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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