Posted on 04/27/2011 6:09:26 AM PDT by DCBryan1
Edited on 04/27/2011 6:22:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
(CNN) The White House released President Obama’s original birth certificate Wednesday.
The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.
your link at 1076 no longer takes one to the larger pdf.....
They sure all look like the same signature.
Would Obama do a very high-profile release of a document still in layered format? According to your reasoning, no. But he did it. That’s all that needs to be said about your reasoning.
Regarding how a document is to be certified, read 11-1-2(b) at http://hawaii.gov/health/about/rules/prac_proc.pdf
And read p 19 of the PDF at http://gen.doh.hawaii.gov/sites/har/AdmRules1/8%208A%20B%20VR%20Admin%20Rules.pdf , where it describes the form of the certification.
And I believe there is a federal statute which codifies when one state’s “acts and records” are to be recognized by other states in compliance with the Constitution’s Full Faith and Credit Clause, and it specifically mentions a raised seal.
Last I knew, it was said that the border on the certificates in Hawaii changes every year or two - a security feature that was added after 9-11. If the border is not part of the certificate then please show me some certified COLB’s or long-forms that do not have a border.
Have they done this yet? I tried to access the White House file about a half hour ago, and received an odd error message.
But abnormally he would spend millions to keep it from being published. And then he would publish it with obvious signs of insignificant tampering sprinkled with a few juicy other obscurities just to keep the merry-go-round loud and dizzying.
So, if we take away Trump's "I won" with this new revelation, then Obama not only wins, but he wins big.
An incurious Media will view the official document and move on because they know that John Q.P. can't concentrate long enough to sort out fact from fiction.
The Left never forgets that Truth is tedious and victory has short shelf life.
“That morning” was 3 days later.
Your arguments have all been rebutted already - by Janice Okubo, Communications Director for the Hawaii Department of Health.
Boy, are you going to have a busy day today, Lucy! ;-)
Yes ms. rogers we have seen you beaten that dead horse by nausea and every-time you have beaten to the ground also, so just go and ride your own horses and enjoy them, LOL!!!
Today is really separating the sheep from the goats!
I still have the layered “BC” on my computer....which google has now taken down.
However, I don’t know how to do a screen shot to save it.
It looks to me as fake as the faked COLB proven fake on it’s two or three different web sites!!!
Also, just read something from the Fox News site by a poster which is VERY interesting regarding this possible FAKE BC:
“Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?” [link to www.whitehouse.gov] From WIKI: The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Check it Out your self at WIKI ! Gives 1978 as the Name Change Date ! [link to en.wikipedia.org]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2711389/posts?page=8#8
“Despite the fact that state court cases have absolutely no legal weight of authority in federal court...”
Except that the US Supreme Court cited it in WKA, and used the arguments of Lynch in WKA.
And at a minimum, it shows that courts in 1844 had concluded that a NBC could have two alien parents. If you read Lynch, you will see why the reasoning there is flawless.
Any way the actual image of that could be seen, besides just a roundish shape of distortion?
Somebody mentioned that the specific areas that are distinct layers include a spacer for a graphic around that area. I wonder how the location of the graphics box compares with where that “seal” is.
Come on BZ, think a little here. He was born on a Friday evening. The paperwork was taken care of the following Monday. Government offices are closed on weekends.
I think your definition of rebutted is not the same as mine. But I am game - how exactly did she rebut this.
Where on WND are these located? Thank you.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode48/usc_sup_01_48_10_3notes.html
Thanks Coyotehockey. Almost skipped a beat on that one!
A certificate from March 15 2011 looks like it has the same stamp, but it’s hard to read:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=285921
I think “true copy or abstract” is a recent change in the stamp, but don’t know for sure.
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