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Petraeus condemns Quran burning as protests rage on
cnn ^ | 4/3/2011 | cnn

Posted on 04/03/2011 3:20:59 PM PDT by tobyhill

Top U.S. officials in Afghanistan on Sunday condemned the burning of a Quran in the United States that sparked three days of protests in which more than 20 people died.

Burning the Muslim holy book "was hateful, it was intolerant and it was extremely disrespectful and again, we condemn it in the strongest manner possible," said Gen. David Petraeus, who heads the U.S.-led international forces in Afghanistan.

U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry said in a statement that Americans respect the Quran "and all religious texts and deplore any action that shows disrespect to any religious faith."

"At the same time, I want to emphasize, as have many Afghan leaders, that to attack and kill innocent people in response to the deplorable act of one individual is outrageous, and an affront to human decency and dignity," Eikenbery's statement said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2surrender2islam; 2surrender2terror; burning; burnmore; koranimals
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To: the invisib1e hand
But the way a trainer masters a brute beast is not by taunting it. It's by using his proper advantages.

Yeah, like by cutting its balls off.

Barry wants the trainer to cut his own balls off so the beast won't hate him.

301 posted on 04/04/2011 7:11:33 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Puzzleman
Now Lindsey Graham is suggesting that we should further erode our freedom of speech in order to protect the Koran

They agree with Lindsey.

302 posted on 04/04/2011 7:14:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: apoliticalone
Or is he (like the Westboro Church) just seeking his 15 minutes of fame at the expense of the US mission and to make the job more dangerous and difficult for US servicemen and women?

That's exactly what he's doing. He's a Fred Phelps wannabe with the right to be a creepy attention seeker, but is fully responsible for behavior that endangers our troops.

What amazes me is how many freepers jump on the General for trying to protect his troops and defend this utter moron and his irresponsible behavior.

303 posted on 04/04/2011 7:14:11 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan; pillut48; bigheadfred
Both of you seem to have serious reading comprehension issues.

When you say nothing else but condemn the jackass preacher, when you make that one point in a post, you can't really blame anyone on grounds of reading comprehension. You have made a faulty argument, presented an irrelevancy. (I'm referring specifically to your posts 126 and 130, not the others.)

The preacher's jackassism is totally beside the point. Most here, including 668, understand that he is a jackass. But 1A is not only to protect the wise.

Nor is it for Gen. Petraeus to make public comments as to who is wise or foolish. His job is to get the war won, not to undermine it, and his comments undermine it far more than the Florida preacher's actions.

304 posted on 04/04/2011 7:14:24 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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To: ohioWfan
He also has the responsibility to understand that his right has resulted in death and put our troops in danger, and he should be held responsible for that.

Held responsible in what way?

The muzzies riot and kill over a cartoon, should those who draw cartoons be held responsible? What should the punishment be for drawing a cartoon that causes a muslim to loose control?

305 posted on 04/04/2011 7:14:56 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The damage from Big Press is already dwarfing the actual damages to the nuclear reactors in Japan)
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To: EBH
...because he knew full well that burning the Koran would put our troops in further danger, and he did it anyway. And there in lies why he did not have a protected right to speech. He knew his actions were incitement. He most likely figured a few protests or riots, what he didn't imagine was blood being drawn for book burning.

So how do you know that posting something here on FR that is considered anti-Islamic won't incite riots? Believe me, if those people read many of the posts here, it's a lot more inflammatory than just burning a Koran.

306 posted on 04/04/2011 7:17:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: EBH
He most likely figured a few protests or riots, what he didn't imagine was blood being drawn for book burning.

Then he's even dumber than your average rock.

I think you're wrong. He knew full well that what he did would result in death and the endangering of our troops and his need for attention for his infantile emotional outburst was more important to him than the lives of the troops who are protecting his freedom.

The idea that anyone on this board is defending him is utterly appalling to me.

307 posted on 04/04/2011 7:19:16 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: globelamp

“And of course, the primary reason that we even have a president named “Obama” in office is spelled “B-u-s-h”.”


I couldn’t agree more. Bush and Obama aren’t that different. Neither one gives a damn about the Constitution or the USA as a nation, and instead implement policies to keep us serving as a cash cow to be plucked and plundered by others, including other nations.

This discussion reminds me of the “bring em on” comments early in Iraq. In days of old when the King actually led men into battle I would accept those comments as real bravado, but not when they are made by someone thousands of miles and far removed from combat. I say the same about the good pastor.


308 posted on 04/04/2011 7:19:35 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Conservatism is about putting the USA first, not international bankers and corporations)
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To: ohioWfan

Ping to 293


309 posted on 04/04/2011 7:24:46 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I can't blame people for reading comprehension issues when they draw ridiculous and wrongheaded conclusions that have nothing to do with I actually said?? LOL! Now that's kinda funny.

I expect people to think when they read and respond to the words that are actually written. Forgive me.

General Petraeus is doing his job, both in working to get the war won under dire circumstances with an anti-American CinC, and in defending the lives of his troops from irresponsible morons.

310 posted on 04/04/2011 7:25:39 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan
Petraeus should worry first about his own troops, rather than some Florida pastor

US Army Apologizes for Afghan Trophy Photos

311 posted on 04/04/2011 7:28:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: pillut48

I realize that Petraeus is trying to protect his troops in Afghanistan from these loons but I have a better idea: to quote from Ann Coulter, bomb them, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity! That works for me! and I am not a Christian. How about condemning the murderers of innocents?


312 posted on 04/04/2011 7:30:16 AM PDT by juliej
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To: Balding_Eagle

What some people seem to be forgetting here is the issue of personal responsibility on the part of muslims who decide to kill people because of a news report.

The preacher would be responsible if he were affecting inanimate objects or non-human creatures without free will. If he burned a quran in a dry forest, one could hold him responsible for the resulting fire that destroyed a billion dollars worth of suburban property nearby. If he burned a quran under the beard of a lion, one could hold him responsible for getting the animal enraged enough to maul anyone it encountered in its rampage.

Muslims are not dry brush or lions. They are human beings with free will and the moral responsibility that attaches to it.

For comparison, consider the rapist argument: she asked for it, dressing like that; she chose her clothes foolishly; she provoked me; she should have stayed home, shut up, covered up. I’m not to blame! She is!


313 posted on 04/04/2011 7:30:25 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
We who recognize that Islam is at war with us existentially, are a tiny minority. We don't make policy, we don't affect policy, chirping away at our keyboards.

Yeah, I know. But I chirp, therefore I am. :0/

314 posted on 04/04/2011 7:35:39 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: kabar
We will just have to agree to disagree.

Fair enough, FRiend.

315 posted on 04/04/2011 7:36:17 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
He should be held responsible by not being defended and coddled by people who ought to know better.

He knowingly put our troops in further danger by his "Look at ME!" behavior. He knowingly made our troops' work more difficult in a dangerous situation among dangerous people.

I didn't say he should be punished, but he should be castigated by anyone who supports the work of our troops in Afghanistan, and not praised. In that way, he should be held responsible for his reckless behavior.

No one is arguing that Islamofascists are not evil people who do evil things whether or not there is a 'cause.' But that doesn't excuse an American citizen who, as I said, knowingly puts our troops who are fighting this evil, in danger.

There is no excuse for this moronic pseudo-preacher's actions.

316 posted on 04/04/2011 7:36:22 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: dfwgator
Petraeus is brilliant. I'm sure he can handle multiple tasks.

Hopefully his words here will help prevent others from doing stupid things for no reason that put our troops in danger.

317 posted on 04/04/2011 7:40:36 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: ohioWfan

How about those who draw cartoons? How should they be held responsible?


318 posted on 04/04/2011 7:43:50 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The damage from Big Press is already dwarfing the actual damages to the nuclear reactors in Japan)
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To: tobyhill
I'm against kooran burning as well....

No need to waste good toilet paper!


319 posted on 04/04/2011 7:50:21 AM PDT by RasterMaster (We the tax-payer subsidize DUh-bama's failures)
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To: tobyhill

Amen, I was going to call them worse than animals, but animals do not behave this way. They are barbarians and you cannot turn barbarians into model citizens. The Middle East is a waste of our valuable young men and women.
We need to forget about their oil and use our natural gas and start building our own refineries and drilling. No matter what we do, the terrorist will continue to grow.


320 posted on 04/04/2011 7:52:48 AM PDT by ohiogrammy (12)
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