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Democracy Can Be Dangerous
2/7/2011 | Repulican Donkey

Posted on 02/07/2011 6:30:52 AM PST by Repulican Donkey

A little bit of democracy can be a dangerous thing


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KEYWORDS: chat; democracy; egypt; mubarak; vanity
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Democracy has been a buzz-word for quite awhile. Bush 43 loved to use it when he would wax eloquent about spreading democracy across the Middle East as if doing that would usher in Jesus' return. But, like so many of us Bush 43 was too naive and too ignorant of history to understand that a little bit of democracy can be a dangerous thing.

In 1933 the German people elected Adolf Hitler. Yes, they elected him in a blatant show of democracy. We all know how that turned out for millions of peope dead, crippled and impoverished twelve years later when their democratic decision was undone by American blood and American power. By the way, Mussolini also came to office through democratic election. The people of Ethiopia are, we can be sure, in awe of the wisdom of the Italian electorate. Franco never ran for office and American elites vilify him because he hated Communism. He saved Spain from itself and then turned power back to the King and the people. He was a true democrat. Talk to older Spaniards and they will tell a different story from what we hear in the American media.

The serial murderers of the French Revolution were all elected by the people as well. We all know about Madam LaFarge knitting while the heads fell; but we know less about how in the rural provinces the revolutionaries would throw people, bound hand and foot, off bridges to watch them drown. Those funny democrats started tossing couples - a man and a woman bound together at the same time to speed things up. They called these democratic gestures "weddings".

Egypt will not flower into true democracy. It will fail, just as Iraq and Afghanistan have failed despite the sham of elections because democracy based on nothing but anger is just a mob looking for a leader.

Whether by luck, planning or Providence the American experiement in democracy happened in the correct sequence. We wrote the rules - the Constitution - before we elected a government. Absent a national consensus of values like those stated in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights there is no true democracy.

Absent those values, democracy in Egypt will mean what it has in Afghanistan, Iraq, Zimbabwe, Turkey and Pakistan: persecution of religious and ethnic minorities; dictators playing the mob and enjoying the power.

Islamofacists hate us because of those values. They want to destroy us because of those values.

A little bit of democracy is a dangerous thing.

1 posted on 02/07/2011 6:30:53 AM PST by Repulican Donkey
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To: Repulican Donkey

Democracy has always been dangerous.
That’s why so many have tried to kill it..................


2 posted on 02/07/2011 6:33:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

Umm... we’re not a Democracy. We’re a Constitutional Republic. There’s an ocean-sized difference.


3 posted on 02/07/2011 6:34:26 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

I don’t believe in Democracy - I think the constant blathering about it from US politicians is just stupid (we don’t have one either thank God but we’re getting closer every day.)

Democracy is more like Demogogracy.

Just to stir the pot some more :-) I don’t believe in universal suffrage either.


4 posted on 02/07/2011 6:36:43 AM PST by jtal
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To: Repulican Donkey
Whether by luck, planning or Providence the American experiment in democracy happened in the correct sequence.

No luck involved. The founding fathers knew how dangerous unfettered Democracy was. That's why they were so intent on separation of powers and setting up a Representative Republic rather than a Democracy. Mob rule always ends badly. No exceptions.
5 posted on 02/07/2011 6:41:03 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Repulican Donkey
Whether by luck, planning or Providence the American experiment in democracy happened in the correct sequence.

No luck involved. The founding fathers knew how dangerous unfettered Democracy was. That's why they were so intent on separation of powers and setting up a Representative Republic rather than a Democracy. Mob rule always ends badly. No exceptions.
6 posted on 02/07/2011 6:41:03 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Repulican Donkey
Henry Louis Mencken (American Journalist and Critic (880-1956)--

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."

Alexander Tyler--

A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.

The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

  • From bondage to spiritual faith;
  • From spiritual faith to great courage;
  • From courage to liberty;
  • From liberty to abundance;
  • From abundance to complacency;
  • From complacency to apathy;
  • From apathy to dependence;
  • From dependence back into bondage.


7 posted on 02/07/2011 6:42:11 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: Repulican Donkey

Just curious—did you intend to spell your screenname that way?


8 posted on 02/07/2011 6:43:24 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

“But, like so many of us Bush 43 was too naive and too ignorant of history to understand that a little bit of democracy can be a dangerous thing. “

I LIKE that. He WAS and IS naive and ignorant.

Our government works well because it was originally designed as a Democratic Republic, based on certain inalienable rights even the majority could not infringe.

But we are slowly slipping and sliding towards the chaos of a true pure representative Democracy which seeks to abridge those rights in the name of popular opinion.

Our government was CENTURIES in the making. It didn’t appear overnight.

You can’t take a person who still thinks like a dark age desert bandit, slaver and murderer and expect him to overnight understand what is involved in a democratic Republic. Long ago Mubarak should have been prodded to make a gradual advance towards representative government based on human rights. We had the money to use as a lever - God knows he has PERSONALLY gotten enough of it. But like always, our foreign policy is reactive instead of proactive.


9 posted on 02/07/2011 6:43:55 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: Red Badger

Two wolves and a sheep deciding on dinner...


10 posted on 02/07/2011 6:44:02 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Repulican Donkey

“But, like so many of us Bush 43 was too naive and too ignorant of history to understand that a little bit of democracy can be a dangerous thing. “

I LIKE that. He WAS and IS naive and ignorant.

Our government works well because it was originally designed as a Democratic Republic, based on certain inalienable rights even the majority could not infringe.

But we are slowly slipping and sliding towards the chaos of a true pure representative Democracy which seeks to abridge those rights in the name of popular opinion.

Our government was CENTURIES in the making. It didn’t appear overnight.

You can’t take a person who still thinks like a dark age desert bandit, slaver and murderer and expect him to overnight understand what is involved in a democratic Republic. Long ago Mubarak should have been prodded to make a gradual advance towards representative government based on human rights. We had the money to use as a lever - God knows he has PERSONALLY gotten enough of it. But like always, our foreign policy is reactive instead of proactive.


11 posted on 02/07/2011 6:44:02 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: rarestia

We are supposed to be a constitutional repbulic. We’ve been drifting towards democracy for a long time.

Democracy ends in tyranny.

But we shouldn’t do anything about it because voting makes you FEEL so good!


12 posted on 02/07/2011 6:48:23 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: Repulican Donkey
You should know that the founders of this country could not utter the word "democracy" without spitting and clearing their throats afterward! To a man they absolutely abhorred the idea of mob rule which is EXACTLY what democracy is!

I suggest that every time you hear some talking head on TV use the word 'democracy" when referring to these United States you recall the following from Leon Trotsky.

"Communism needs democracy like the human body needs oxygen."

13 posted on 02/07/2011 6:49:36 AM PST by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: ZULU

No again as noted in previous postings, we are NOT a democracy of any kind. We were established as a constitutional representative REPUBLIC, not a democracy in any way. The founding fathers understood how worthless and dangerous to freedoms a democracy can be.


14 posted on 02/07/2011 6:51:08 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Repulican Donkey

Democracy is only a process and any process can get out of hand unless some safeguards are in place.


15 posted on 02/07/2011 6:55:11 AM PST by monocle
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To: MichiganConservative

No one has the guts to stage a revolt at this time. People are too comfortable with their cable TV, high speed Internet, and iPhones, and the government knows this. We have all been lulled into complacency.

An armed revolution is the only thing that would stop the advance of Communism in the US. No one has the fortitude of our forefathers. One day we’ll all wake up and the United States will be a memory.


16 posted on 02/07/2011 6:57:08 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Repulican Donkey

Types of government explained:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY


17 posted on 02/07/2011 6:57:31 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: rarestia
No one has the guts to stage a revolt at this time.

There is also a large part of the population that really likes being the happy house slave. Another sizable group, usually on the right, refuses to believe they are not as free as any American has ever been from the tyranny of government.

18 posted on 02/07/2011 7:01:06 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: RJS1950

NO. It was a democratic Republic. The people elected the House and local governmental officials directly.

They elected the Electors to the Electoral College who elected the President. Their legislatures elected the U.S. Senators.

On the state level, the Legislative Bodies and local officials and governors were directly elected by the people.

The franchise was limited to free males above 21 years of age and in many cases there were religious and/or property tests.

The Revolution itself was a democratic movement and started with the people.


19 posted on 02/07/2011 7:11:50 AM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: MichiganConservative
We are supposed to be a constitutional repbulic. We’ve been drifting towards democracy for a long time.

That is why the democrats want to eliminate the Electoral College. So big liberal ares of this country can control who is elected President.

20 posted on 02/07/2011 7:12:44 AM PST by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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