Posted on 01/27/2011 1:51:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
HONOLULU (AP) -- Five Hawaii Democratic representatives want to pass a law making President Barack Obama's birth records public and charge $100 to see them.
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Barry Davis?
We believe she may have registered him. We believe his birth certificate must exist. We believe just about anything, but his paternal grandmother when she stated she was there when he was born in Kenya, and some Kenyan officials who stated he was born there too. What is up with that?
It is possible, but from what I have heard about Frank Marshall Davis’s wife, she had no problem with Frank doing whatever he wanted, but that excluded having children with other women. She had money.
If he did impregnate Stanley Ann, he would never admit to being the father. So Obozo is probably listed with father unknown.
In the beginning I put little credibility in the idea of FMD being the father. Now it is anyone’s guess.
How did you get to that gag notice?
Were there 2 of these articles - one saying it was by AP’s Mark Niesse and another a Yahoo news thing?
You actually think this is helping 0????
You have a whole lot of independent thinking, moderate voters very much not inclined to doubt Obama being a NBC, wondering why exactly he just doesn't release everything and put the matter to rest.
The left is not laughing at us.
And there were at least 2 separate times where he sspecifically said he talked to Abercrombie. In the transcript that I typed up he said that neil said to him, “Mike, ....” He’s clearly recounting a conversation he had with Abercrombie. It’s not a misstatement.
In that conversation he also said that Abercrombie had sent his people into the 2 hospitals with a search warrant.
And there were at least 2 separate times where he sspecifically said he talked to Abercrombie. In the transcript that I typed up he said that neil said to him, “Mike, ....” He’s clearly recounting a conversation he had with Abercrombie. It’s not a misstatement.
In that conversation he also said that Abercrombie had sent his people into the 2 hospitals with a search warrant.
This is a guy who dedicated his career-making book to the Dreams he got from his father. It would seriously damage him to find out his father is someone else—especially if it turns out Barry knew this already, but tried to keep it a secret.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
Yep, understatement.
I’m coming to think that the whole Birth Certificate thing is a well-organized diversion con. Keep the focus off of what is the big stopper in plain sight.
The Big Stopper: That Obama Sr was never a US citizen, therefore Obama does not meet the “natural born citizen” requirement. The con has two parts. One: create a covering distraction that forces the argument to be one of “where Obama was born”. Two: Assert that the 14th Amendment means that since Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a native=born citizen, and that “native-born” means the same as “natural born”.
The con is really the second part. It’s a masterful con. It relies on the popular remorse over America’s history of slavery. Obama is black, and no elite is going to challenge a black man on 14th Amendment issues.
The con works because the distraction over the birth records keeps the fact that Obama Senior was never a citizen and what that means in re NBC out of the popular discussion. And that is what has happened.
It’s a risky con, but great risks mean great rewards. And so far the reward has been maximum.
BIRTHERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!
Barry Soetoro: raising the bar for pathological liars the world over.
I am about 95% birther. The only thing I need explained a little more is the newspaper announcement.
BTW
BIRTHERS OF THE NATION!
HA HA HA
FFFFUUUUUBBBBOOOO!!!!!!
I agree. I actually have three occasions, and he even said "yesterday". The meaning was clear. He talked to Abercrombie in person "yesterday," and he said it on at least three occasions.
Multiple sources have said the granny could have placed the announcements. Just walk into the newspaper ads dept. and place a birth announcement. Even people who worked in newspapers back in that time period confirmed this is all it would have taken.
Plus some Freepers—definitely not me—have compared the overall announcements in both papers, and found out that neither is a complete list, nor do they match each other. So much for the idea that only HI officials could have placed the ads.
After reading D’Souzas book, I am convinced there is massive amounts of info still out there for us to discover.
The courts won’t address the definition of NBC or the facts of Obama’s eligibility. So it doesn’t even matter what the people focus on or are distracted by. Before the election there was nothing we could do about it that we weren’t already trying to do.
Now before the 2012 election we can do a lot about it, in the form of state eligibility bills, and the state eligibility bills I know of almost all incorporate a definition of NBC that will force SCOTUS to define the term and require Obama and everybody else to be judged by that definition.
And in the long run, I think his refusal to do that mundane task that everybody else has to do - present documentation - has caused a LOT of the distrust of him, and especially as people see that he DOES seem to want to undo the Constitution.
People in government offices at both state and national levels have committed crimes to cover for Obama. That’s a very, very expensive diversion and people would not do that willingly just as a diversion. There’s more to the story than what we’re seeing; of that I am absolutely convinced.
My guess was that when he was adopted by Lolo Soetero in Indonesia, Barack Sr. came to Hawaii to sign the adoption papers (the week that Barry hung out with him)and the amended BC replaced the original BC. So...the new BC would say Barry Soetero. This could be the reason his college records have been scrubbed...for instance, he might have listed Indonesia as his nationality, received grants as a foreign student with Indonesian CITIZENSHIP...perhaps traveled on a passport as Barry Soetero citizen of Indonesia. This would be enough to sink him. Also, it is documented that he went by Barry Soetero at Occidental...Just makes sense to me. If he just started calling himself BO II when transitioning to “keeping it real” African American man at Columbia...but didn't do a records change? Well...the BC would still be under Barry Soetero.
Anyway...the other poster dressed me down by saying Barry Soetero (and I presume Dunham) was not on that HDOH index data report...so....
I wonder if anybody else had this theory and can explain just what the HDOX index data report is, who requested it, etc....Where, on line, you can find this info? I Googled, but didn't find anything with much good info.
I still think the problem is with BO’s adoption/citizenship. Can't wait until this whole mess blows open and we find out what the little fraud is heaping lie upon lie over.
” Maybe he really WAS born at home in Hawaii with no independent witnesses as his maternal grandmother registered (I believe). “
Barry wrote on page 66 of Dreams.. that when his father ..er..
Barack Hussein Obama I came to Hawaii
for the one and only visit ,
they spent 5 days walking
or driving around Hawaii
revisiting the old haunts of BHO I .
Like the elder Kenyan’s first aptmnt ,
the grandparent’s first house and lookey here
“ the remodeled hospital where I had been born.”
No specific name, naturally.
It was thrown in there for a reason , IMHO.
Just like on page 54 when he describes the airport chaos that overwhelmed him
as he returned to Hawaii after being exiled by his mother.
Even going into great detail about the Chinese family on the plane with him.
The father took off his shoes and walked up
and down the aisle
and the kids were allowed to run amok throughout the plane.
American kids would not have behaved that way 40 years ago,
I doubt Asian families would permit
that type of unruly
and disrespectful acting out.
This explicit detail is typical of the book-except when it comes to specifics about his origins and schooling, etc.
Then it all gets gauzy.
He just had to write about showing the Customs Agent his passport proving that he was an American.
Like he remembers that specific incident 40 years later .
And did the 10 yr old even know
what kind of passport he held ?
On page 22, Soetero throws in a passage that he weighed
“ 8 pounds, two ounces “ at birth.
Somebody apparently weighed him at birth .
The scale would have to be a sensitive medical type normally used for newborns and infants to record ounces.
Did he read his weight off the birth certificate he discovered on page 26 ?
He described his American passport , but, never said he found an American birth certificate.
Or perhaps he really has no idea of the particulars of his birth circumstances
and he made up his birth weight
as part of the smoke screen .
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