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California Moves Closer to Banning Open Carry & Registering All Long Guns
ammoland.com ^ | 16 August, 2010 | CRPA

Posted on 08/17/2010 5:06:39 AM PDT by marktwain

Sacramento, Ca --(Ammoland.com)- Keep the pressure the legislature on AB 1810 and AB 1934.

Voice your opposition!

Both of these bills have made their way to the Senate, and the time for you to act is now! Use the CRPA website to CONTACT YOUR SENATOR TODAY and urge defeat of these bills!

AB 1810 RIFLE AND SHOTGUN REGISTRATION AB 1810 SUMMARY: Applies the same regulations relating to the reporting and retention of records for handguns to long guns, as specified. Specifically, this bill conforms reporting and record retention provisions in order that transfers and information reporting and retention requirements for handguns and firearms other than handguns are the same.

AB 1810 requires registration of rifles and shotguns in the same way handguns are now registered in California. Under current law, the information collected at the time of purchase of a rifle or shotgun (serial number, make, and model) is destroyed after the background check is completed. AB 1810 will require that the make, model, and serial number of the firearm, as well as the identifying information of the purchaser, be recorded and kept on file by the California Attorney General’s office. AB 1810 will also impose additional costs on firearms owners to maintain the registration system as well as on the state’s licensed firearms dealers and small businesses who already deal with extensive recordkeeping requirements

Assembly Member Feuer, the author of AB 1810, claims that the registration of rifles and shotguns will help law enforcement track down criminals and persons prohibited from owning firearms. This logic is flawed. Studies have shown that violent criminals steal firearms to commit crimes and of course they do not comply with current law by registering their stolen handguns.

It is already against the law to possess a stolen firearm or to possess any firearm if you are prohibited from possessing a firearm by law. And most criminals file off the serial numbers on guns used in crimes. In truth, the only persons impacted by this unnecessary proposed law are law abiding citizens.

AB 1934 OPEN-CARRY BAN (Unloaded Handguns) AB 1934 SUMMARY: Makes it a misdemeanor for any person to carry an exposed an unloaded handgun outside a vehicle on his or her person while in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated city. Among other things this bill makes it a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment in the county jail not to exceed six months, by a fine not to exceed $1,000, or by both a fine and imprisonment when any person carries an exposed and unloaded handgun outside a vehicle on his or her person while in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated city, or in any public place or on any public street in a prohibited area of an unincorporated territory.

AB 1934 deletes provisions of current law that allow a firearm to be carried openly in a belt holster. If this bill passes, the open carrying of an unloaded handgun will be illegal with few exceptions. For example, licensed hunters, fishermen, and campers that historically have carried a handgun in a belt holster would be prohibited from carrying a firearm in any prohibited area of an unincorporated area. This would include forest service roads, trails, and campgrounds.

The problem with AB 1934 is that it does not provide a way for the average person to carry a firearm for self-protection or other legitimate purposes. The direction of this bill is contrary to common sense and the approach taken by most other states. For example, Arizona just passed a law allowing for concealed carry without a concealed carry license.

THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING OUT AND HELPING TO PRESERVE YOUR RIGHTS! The California Rifle and Pistol Association “CRPA,” founded in 1875, is dedicated to defending the rights of law-abiding citizens to responsibly use firearms for self-defense and the defense of their loved ones, for sport, and for all other legal activities. CRPA is the official state association of the National Rifle Association. A California non-profit association, CRPA is independently directed by its own Board of Directors. CRPA’s members include law enforcement officers, prosecutors, professionals, firearm experts, the general public, and loving parents. CRPA has always worked to reduce the criminal misuse of firearms and firearms accidents, while actively promoting and organizing the competitive shooting sports and Olympic training programs in California. We are proud to say that many CRPA competitors are among the best in the world.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab1810; ab1934; banglist; barackpansies2; ca; democrats; guncontrol; liberalfascism; nazistate; opencarry; policestate; rapeofliberty; registration; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: marktwain

And the LE in California wonders why I refuse to sell to them. Let’s just give that pathetic excuse of a state to China, clear our debt and be done with it. (I’m only being half sarcastic there...)

I don’t see how any self respecting person could stomach living in that facist regime state.


21 posted on 08/17/2010 7:30:32 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: From The Deer Stand
Of course the criminal element will rush right in to register their long guns so they can comply with the law.

Courts have ruled that the criminal element cannot be legally required to register their guns, because they have a Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Isn't that rich?

22 posted on 08/17/2010 7:46:48 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Pecos
Do you want to waste time by asking that question again?

I see that you were so intent on posting a snotty response that you totally managed to miss the point, so I'll spell it out in terms that even a californian or a new yorker could understand. My point being that there is a sustantial core of police worshiping freepers who have the mistaken notion that somehow in spite of being part of the government bureaucracy the "police are on our side." regarding constitutional rights. Everything I've observed and read shows that nothing could be farther from the truth, and I was using this as an example of it. Do you understand now?

23 posted on 08/17/2010 8:03:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Joe Brower

One state at a time!

Be Ever Vigilant!


24 posted on 08/17/2010 10:18:40 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: marktwain

California becomes yet another state attempting to secede from the USA.


25 posted on 08/17/2010 10:29:56 AM PDT by Ghengis
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To: cripplecreek
Heading in the opposite direction as the rest of the country.

They're just trying to make the Mexicans feel at home.

26 posted on 08/17/2010 11:11:15 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Myrddin

How’s everything going, Myrddin?

You were having some health issues a while back, right?

See ya’,

Ed


27 posted on 08/17/2010 12:10:09 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: marktwain
Why anyone who is even remotely in their right mind is still living in Kookifornia is a complete mystery to me. We really really need to just give it to Mexico and have an end to it. Let the Mexicans have to deal with all the lunatics and crazies. See how long it takes them to beg us to take it back.
28 posted on 08/17/2010 12:59:10 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: marktwain

Sorry, it fell in the lake while I was fishing.


29 posted on 08/17/2010 1:07:04 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Sir_Ed
The health issues come and go. Doing fine for now. I would love to be back home in Idaho, but my extended business trip to San Diego just keeps getting extended.
30 posted on 08/17/2010 1:18:39 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: marktwain

This kind of crap was a big factor in my move
from San Diego to Pocatello, ID. Less crime,
lower taxes, less expensive housing, fewer
people, a fiscally responsible government and
many more.


31 posted on 08/17/2010 2:16:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Yikes!

I was born and raised there, I would hate to go back.

My dad was born and raised in Idaho Falls, though, and I spent years in North Idaho. I was Dad had stayed there, rather than L.A.!

Take care, it must be hard to be away from beautiful North Idaho!

I hope your health gets better...

See ya’,

Ed


32 posted on 08/17/2010 2:21:56 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed; Myrddin
I not sure if Myrddin has ever been to north Idaho.
33 posted on 08/17/2010 2:27:21 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Sir_Ed

I live in the Pocatello area. I’ve visited Twin Falls,
Hailey and cities up I-15/US20. I have not been
west of Twin Falls since arriving in Dec 2000.


34 posted on 08/17/2010 2:35:46 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: steve86

I took my Versys home August 6th with 9600 miles
accrued over the last year. The Harley Roadster is
getting some use in San Diego until I leave. I’ve
put over 1200 miles on it since it was purchased on
Jun 4th.


35 posted on 08/17/2010 2:40:49 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: marktwain

California gun control advocates tried something like this in 1982 in a ballot initiative. The pro-gun forces won by a landslide.


36 posted on 08/17/2010 3:11:16 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: marktwain

CA liberals to voluntarily disarm!

Time to make your move!!!

37 posted on 08/17/2010 5:45:04 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: steve86

Oops, I was thinking you live in North Idaho!

I had your location confused with Bill The Drill!

Sorry...

See ya’,

Ed


38 posted on 08/17/2010 5:50:26 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: mad_as_he$$

Long-arm serial numbers are not included on the current paperwork. Only the serial numbers for handguns are currently listed on the paperwork. When you buy a rifle today it just says long gun or rifle. There is no registration because they do not list the serial number. That is what will change.


39 posted on 08/17/2010 6:46:54 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (California Bankruptcy in 4... 3... 2...)
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To: The Comedian

I will be leaving the People’s Democratic Republic of Kalifornia and moving to the USA around 2020.


40 posted on 08/17/2010 6:49:19 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (California Bankruptcy in 4... 3... 2...)
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