LTC Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition

safeguardourconstitution ^ | 7/29/2010 | American Patriot Foundation

[rxsid]

"Press Release: Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition

American Patriot Foundation, Inc.
1101 Thirtieth Street, N.W., Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20007
www.safeguardourconstitution.com

DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR LTC TERRY LAKIN MAKES FORMAL REQUEST TO COMMANDING GENERAL FOR DEPOSITION OF HAWAII STATE DEPT OF HEALTH

Testimony Sought of “Custodian of Records” AND Production of all records relating to President

Decision to be made by Army Major General

Washington, D.C., July 29, 2010. The Army doctor who is facing a court martial for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, has formally requested his Commanding General approve a deposition in Hawaii of the records-keeper of the State Department of Health—and the production of all of their records concerning Barack Obama.

The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii’s Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu. Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino the head of that agency has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the Department’s custody. Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the Department’s records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.

The United States Constitution requires that a person be a “natural born citizen” to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a “natural born citizen”. An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health are an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008.

While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin’s case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary.

Lakin’s request was submitted by his counsel to the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington, Major General Karl R. Horst, under Rule 702(b) of the Rules for Courts-Martial, which provides that “A convening authority who has the charges for disposition or, after referral, the convening authority or the military judge may order that a deposition be taken on request of a party.”

Lakin’s civilian attorney has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, which has established a fund for Lakin’s legal defense to LTC Lakin. Further details are available on the Foundation’s website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com."

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100728.html

[Frantzie]

You obviously have no clue what is going on. The ROE, the infiltration, MB and others. Go back top you dreamworld with your TV clicker and ball games. You sound like a typical idiot who watches TV.

[Exmil_UK]

John Jay underlined the word *born* in the phrase “natural born citizen” in his letter to George Washington:-

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Sir, Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government ; and to declare expressly that the command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a natural born citizen. I remain, dear sir, Your faithful friend and servant, John Jay. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obama may well have been born a British subject in 1961, if his father was, as Obama always said, Barack Obama Senior.

It may seem strange, but at the time subjects of the empire had the right to move to and live in the UK because the British Nationality act of 1948 made them effectively British.

Many thousands of Carribean folks took up the offer, which possibly led to the act being repealed later. I think your arguement that we are claiming Obama has to this day a burning loyalty to Her Majesty the Queen is a strawman.

[Mr Rogers]

Someone born in the US of German parents, raised in Germany who never claims US citizenship, is not subject to registering for the draft.

See Perkins v Elg to learn how the courts have viewed these things:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2499682/posts

Tough guys have been lying on the Internet for years. I’ve stated why I believe you are wrong, and it isn’t a matter where your error can be by accident. You are lying about the facts of the case.

[Mr Rogers]

I see...you have no evidence. End of discussion.

[rxsid]

"Childish and ineffective insult aside"

Ditto.

[imfleck]

This isn’t a constitutional issue, it’s a UCMJ issue.

This man disobeyed a lawful order given to him by his commanding officer.

Here’s an example: A Petty Officer Third Class doesn’t want to deploy with his ship because he doesn’t believe the CinC has the constitutional authority to deploy him. Can that PO3 then disregard the lawful orders given to him by his PO1, CPO, LT, CAPT, ADM because he doesn’t believe the authority of the CinC?

How ‘bout if the CinC’s credentials were already validated by the certifying authority? Would that help or hinder the PO3’s case?

[allmendream]

Hawaii says it doesn't issue “long forms” BC’s anymore, the only thing they say they issue these days is the computer printout “short form”.

Under the “full faith and credit” clause of the Constitution, other states are obligated to accept it as proof of birth within Hawaii, if Hawaii says it is proof of birth within Hawaii.

So there is no “long form” pot of gold waiting at the end of any rainbow.

[Red Steel]

Someone born in the US of German parents, raised in Germany who never claims US citizenship, is not subject to registering for the draft.

I remember that thread as you got taken to the woodshed real good. Did the Supreme Court say that the young Steinkauler was a natural born citizen? No, they did not. The subject here is that my neighbor's son was born in Germany and not born in the US and where the German government made a claim for military compulsory service. Haven't your argued before that by being born in the US automatically makes US natural born citizens? Right?

Tough guys have been lying on the Internet for years. I’ve stated why I believe you are wrong, and it isn’t a matter where your error can be by accident. You are lying about the facts of the case.

No, wrong again. Someone who talks as tough as you should be a tough guy.

[El Sordo]

“Lakin’s CO is more concerned with preserving his personal career than with preserving the Constitution.”

I take it you’ve talked to him?

[Mr Rogers]

Obama COULD have claimed UK citizenship, but he did not. He could have claimed Kenyan citizenship, but he did not and cannot do so any longer. He also would have needed to renounce US citizenship in writing to become a Kenyan.

He was primarily raised in the USA with a US passport. No evidence has surfaced of a UK passport.

Thus he is not a dual citizen with dual passports and presumed loyalty. And he certainly does not possess any loyalty to the UK.

There is an argument to be made that Obama is not a NBC, but the predominate opinion in the 1900s is that he IS a NBC. The US Supreme Court has never ruled on the meaning, nor do I believe it ever will. Had they been inclined, they would have done so in Dec 2008.

I am sympathetic with the birther arguments that dual citizen parents are required for NBC. That is actually how I would have interpret the phrase until I read about the legal history of ‘natural born subject’. I find that argument stronger, and it can be found as discussed by the Indiana courts here:

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf

I am not sympathetic to the idea that anyone who disagrees with the birther legal theory is a traitor who loves Obama.

[danamco]

You just forget that he swore an oath to the Constitution, which is HIS conviction. He did NOT swore an oath to the commanding officer or to the Commander- in-THIEF!!!

So now he doesn't have a right to refer to his Constitutional rights???

How ‘bout if the CinC’s credentials were already validated by the certifying authority? Would that help or hinder the PO3’s case?

Where and HOW were these validated, isn't that what the whole case is about???

[Mr Rogers]

“Haven’t your argued before that by being born in the US automatically makes US natural born citizens? Right?”

I’ve argued that those born in the US whose parents are here legally are US citizens. That is based on the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. I think WKA went too far, but their decision supported the idea that anyone born in the USA is a NBC.

However, someone born in the USA but raised in Mexico as a Mexican who never claims US citizenship is NOT treated as a US citizen. He is not taxed, not required to register for the draft, etc. He could at a future date claim US citizenship, and I’m not certain how that would turn out. But he would NOT be extradited to the US for military service.

[Exmil_UK]

The DOJ abandoning section 8 voter fraud cases could be considered the leading edge of a soft, creeping, Chavez-type coup.

I suspect something terrible is coming, but I have no proof of it. While Gates is at SecDef it is unthinkable that Obama could attempt a hard power coup, but if he is replaced by Mark Marshall Davis or similar, then anything may emerge from Pandora’s box.

Its that Weather Underground link that feeds the nightmares more than anything else.

[Red Steel]

Obama COULD have claimed UK citizenship, but he did not. He could have claimed Kenyan citizenship, but he did not and cannot do so any longer. He also would have needed to renounce US citizenship in writing to become a Kenyan.

The subject is that Obama could claim foreign citizenship or that a foreign country could claim him that he was born with a foreign citizenship. The authors of the US Constitution never claimed to be natural born citizens of the United States, therefore, they wrote the grandfather clause in Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5.

[El Sordo]

Actually, I don’t watch much television or sports.

I guess time will tell as to which one of us is correct.

So, if you’re mistaken, will that affect your worldview any?

If I’m ultimately wrong, I can sure say that it will drastically rearrange mine.

[El Sordo]

“How ‘bout if the CinC’s credentials were already validated by the certifying authority? Would that help or hinder the PO3’s case?”

It depends entirely on whether or not I like the CinC.

And which party he's in. That too.

[Triple]

If you truly seek the truth - find it for yourself. That is the only way you will be satisfied. - start with Obama’s father. He was a kenyan citizen by all accounts.

I don’t think you really care about the truth of the matter - you have indicated your mind is closed.

Enjoy

[danamco]

Tim Adams “Chief Election Clerk” from the city and county of Honolulu, Hawaii during the 2008 presidential election.

Is he a "lair lair, pants on fire," or is he an idiot also???