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Prince William chairman says Virginia should follow Arizona on immigration
The Washington Post ^ | June 17, 2010 | Jennifer Buske

Posted on 06/17/2010 3:08:55 PM PDT by mdittmar

Prince William Board of County Supervisors Chairman Corey A. Stewart is calling on Virginia legislators to follow in Arizona's footsteps and pass a law to crack down on illegal immigration throughout the Commonwealth.

Dubbing it the "Virginia Rule of Law Campaign," Stewart said he will spend the rest of the year lobbying the General Assembly to pass legislation that enhances police officials' power to capture, detain and deport illegal aliens; outlaws illegal day laboring; and creates specific Virginia penalties for illegal immigrants.

"We need to bring the rule of law to all of Virginia," Stewart said. "As long as the federal government shows no interest in securing the border and no interest in internal enforcement to promote self-deportation, then states and localities will have to pick up the slack."

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; coreystewart; princewilliam; pwc; realconservatives; sb1070; virginia
Stewart has created a Facebook page called The Virginia Rule of Law Campaign.

Virginians!

1 posted on 06/17/2010 3:08:55 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Go Corey Stewart!!!


2 posted on 06/17/2010 3:09:32 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: mdittmar

Most Americans back new Arizona law, Washington Post-ABC News poll finds

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/17/AR2010061700008.html


3 posted on 06/17/2010 3:10:45 PM PDT by jessduntno (Afghanistan: Lithium is the new oil. Where are the NO WAR FOR LITHIUM protests?)
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To: mdittmar
"As long as the federal government shows no interest in securing the border and no interest in internal enforcement to promote self-deportation, then states and localities will have to pick up the slack."

Chairman Corey Stewart is precisely correct!

4 posted on 06/17/2010 3:13:54 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: kalee

That’s our current home county! :)


5 posted on 06/17/2010 3:16:11 PM PDT by Cailleach
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To: Cailleach

Make it illegal in the State of Arizona for an alien to not register with the government, thus being an “illegal alien” (already the case at the federal level: 8 USC 1306a; USC 1304e)

Allow police to detain people where there is a “reasonable suspicion” that they’re illegal aliens (see the recent court case Estrada v. Rhode Island for an idea of what “reasonable suspicion” might entail)

Prohibits sanctuary cities (already prohibited at the federal level, 8 USC 1373) and allows citizens to sue any such jurisdiction

Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Myth No. 1: The law requires aliens to carry identification that they weren’t already required to carry.

Reality: It has been a federal crime (8 United States Code Section 1304(a) or 1306(e)) since 1940 for aliens to fail to carry their registration documents. The Arizona law reaffirms the federal law. Anyone who has traveled abroad knows that other nations have similar requirements. The majority requests for documentation will take place during the course of other police business such as traffic stops. Because Arizona allows only lawful residents to obtain licenses, an officer must presume that someone who produces one is legally in the country. (See News Hour clip 3:45 seconds in)

Myth No. 2: The law will encourage racial profiling.

Reality: The Arizona law reduces the chances of racial profiling by requiring officers to contact the federal government when they suspect a person is an illegal alien as opposed to letting them make arrests on their own assessment as federal law currently allows. Section 2 was amended (by HB2162) to read that a law enforcement official “may not consider race, color, or national origin” in making any stops or determining an alien’s immigration status (previously, they were prohibited in “solely” considering those factors). In addition, all of the normal Fourth Amendment protections against racial profiling still apply.

Myth No. 3: “Reasonable suspicion” is a meaningless term that will permit police misconduct.

Reality: “Reasonable suspicion” has been defined by the courts for decades (the Fourth Amendment itself proscribes “unreasonable searches and seizures”). One of the most recent cases, Estrada v. Rhode Island, provides an example of the courts refining of “reasonable suspicion:”

A 15 passenger van is pulled over for a traffic violation. The driver of the van had identification but the other passengers did not (some had IDs from a gym membership, a non-driver’s license card from the state, and IDs issued from the Guatemalan Consulate). The passengers said they were on their way to work but they had no work permits. Most could not speak English but upon questioning, admitted that they were in the United States illegally. The officer notified ICE and waited three minutes for instructions.

The SB1070 provision in question reads:
“For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state . . . where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person.”

Myth No. 4: The law will require Arizona police officers to stop and question people.

Reality: The law only kicks in when a police officer stopped, detained, or arrested someone (HB2162). The most likely contact is during the issuance of a speeding ticket. The law does not require the officer to begin questioning a person about his immigration status or to do anything the officer would not otherwise do.

Only after a stop is made, and subsequently the officer develops reasonable suspicion on his own that an immigration law has been violated, is any obligation imposed. At that point, the officer is required to call ICE to confirm whether the person is an illegal alien.

The Arizona law is actually more restrictive than federal law. In Muehler v. Mena (2005), the Supreme Court ruled that officers did not need reasonable suspicion to justify asking a suspect about their immigration status, stating that the court has “held repeatedly that mere police questioning does not constitute a seizure” under the Fourth Amendment). Source = http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?jid=475466&lid=9&rid=123&series=tp06MAY10&tid=999725


6 posted on 06/17/2010 3:21:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: mdittmar

I was wondering what Prince William had to do with all this.


7 posted on 06/17/2010 3:21:53 PM PDT by Tax-chick (A cat may look at a queen.)
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To: mdittmar

Damn right!!


8 posted on 06/17/2010 3:26:04 PM PDT by pgkdan (I Miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: mdittmar

Woo hoo!!!


9 posted on 06/17/2010 3:31:07 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: mdittmar

Come on Loudoun !
You can be next. . .


10 posted on 06/17/2010 3:48:19 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: ForGod'sSake; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks mdittmar.
11 posted on 06/17/2010 4:10:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: mdittmar

What the States need to do is recall their Senators and Congressmen and demand that Federal laws be enforced, Stop farting around with these people, send them home and patrol the border with enough force to stop a runaway freight train.


12 posted on 06/17/2010 4:14:18 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


13 posted on 06/17/2010 9:58:30 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from the rocker on my front porch...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks Civ. As popular as Arizona’s new immigration law is with “Americans”, it’s ironic that aside from some rumblings, few other states have actually ventured into the water. Something is amiss, eh?


14 posted on 06/17/2010 10:04:17 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: mdittmar

So meanwhile, last night on the local Univision news, I laughed out loud when they covered this story by interviewing an illegal in Prince William representing an organization called “Mexicans without borders”! There is just no sense of irony in the media, whatsoever, and it doesn’t matter what their language is. And guess what? Surprise! Señor Ilegale opposes Corey’s initiative. Who could have guessed? And, by the way, Mexicans without Borders is bankrolled by the Workers of the World communist umbrella group and is heavy on the Marxist class analysis stuff. Again, who could have guessed?


15 posted on 06/18/2010 8:14:03 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: ForGod'sSake

If it’s difficult now, think how difficult it will be after illegals’ numbers increase further. The war going on right now in Arizona has to be won by the citizens of the United States. Period. I think a toughening of the immigration laws will be easier after the November election — although Zero will continue to make this his all-in-one issue. No health care? Obamacare for illegals.


16 posted on 06/18/2010 3:24:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv
I think a toughening enforcement of the immigration laws will be easier after the November election...

Fixed it.

...although Zero will continue to make this his all-in-one issue. No health care? Obamacare for illegals.

odinga gives no indication he has the slightest intentions of bowing to the will of the people. Manchurian candidate doesn't begin to describe the abomination in our White House. If we are unable or unwilling to boot the dregs from congress this November to rein in this monster, God help us.

17 posted on 06/18/2010 10:07:51 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Booting the Party of Treason is an outcome devoutly to be wished.


18 posted on 06/19/2010 6:12:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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