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Dishwasher soaps must be free of all phosphates by July 1st-Get used to white residue!
April 29, 2010 | Stayfree

Posted on 04/29/2010 4:00:58 PM PDT by Stayfree

My wife has discovered that P&G's Cascade started reformulating in March. And as your chief cook and bottle-washer will soon discover, it is not the dishwasher that is leaving a white residue on all the glassware, it is the lack of phosphates in your favorite dishsoap.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; dishsoap; ecofascism; envirofascism; envirowackos; epa; phosphates; residue; vanity
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To: ridesthemiles
IF everything in the dishwasher had a residue- what will prevent this same residue from forming inside all your pipes taking water out of your house??

Likely nothing. I live in an area with very hard scale water. My water heater and pipes will likely be toast soon. I'm not so much worried about the residue on the 4" pipes leading out as I am the 1/2" pipes leading in.

61 posted on 04/29/2010 6:22:17 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: SkyDancer

Be aware of the bigest seller a company named TSP.

Their product sold in every hardware and home improvement store looks similar to the genuine article but has no phosphate in it!

Don’t buy TSP, buy Tri Sodium Phosphate!


62 posted on 04/29/2010 6:25:12 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: EBH
I actually put the white vinegar in the rinse container.

Is that the little place they make for JetDry or other similar products?

63 posted on 04/29/2010 6:27:32 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: givemELL

Yeah, we are running out of resources... the world is coming to an end. Sorry, am getting really tired of the environmentalists and their cohorts (yes, you are following the trend).

Am beginning to think that almost all of this is about money. Call me disgusted.


64 posted on 04/29/2010 6:31:10 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: IYAS9YAS

Yup. That’s the place.


65 posted on 04/29/2010 6:36:36 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: EBH
Yup. That’s the place.

I'll give it a try. Thanks!

66 posted on 04/29/2010 6:38:33 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

It really does work!

http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/tips-techniques/reader-tip-get-dishes-sparkling-with-vinegar-039184


67 posted on 04/29/2010 6:40:26 PM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: ridesthemiles
IF everything in the dishwasher had a residue- what will prevent this same residue from forming inside all your pipes taking water out of your house??

It does - I lived most of my life in very hard water areas (till the last 5 years or so), and the hard water residue builds up especially on the heater coils in the hot water heater. Lots of people replace the whole water heater when they may be able to get by another 5 years with just replacing the elements.

Over time, though, it does coat everything. Dang low-flow faucets get down to just a trickle in a few years, so you know it's building up in the new smaller diameter water lines...

68 posted on 04/29/2010 6:42:21 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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To: SkyDancer

Buy boxes and boxes of TSP (tri-sodium-phosphate) at Home Depot, Lowes, local hardware stores.

I don’t know how to mix it with non-phosphate products, but that’s the phosphate that will soon be missing from damned near everything.


69 posted on 04/29/2010 6:43:21 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I noticed the same thing. It was always printed very prominently on the front. Not now.


70 posted on 04/29/2010 6:55:56 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: Peter W. Kessler

I’m wondering about Boraxo ... I don’t have any to check but was wondering ...


71 posted on 04/29/2010 7:24:21 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: knarf

Try adding a rinse agent, it helps.


72 posted on 04/29/2010 7:27:33 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, retired Military, disabled & Seniors)
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To: Jewels1091

Thanks I didn’t know that would work. We have very hard water here.


73 posted on 04/29/2010 7:34:34 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Stayfree

Damn - dishwasher soap used as laundry detergent was my secret for keeping whites white.


74 posted on 04/29/2010 7:37:37 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Stayfree

Two tips; Run the hot water before you start your dish washer and a splash of white vinegar before you start, buy it buy the gallon.


75 posted on 04/29/2010 7:45:39 PM PDT by sushitacoman
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To: Peter W. Kessler

I did check at Home Depot tonight. There still is one brand of true TSP there (for now), but all the others are TSP substitute. I don’t know if the substitute products would do any good in the dishwasher nor if they would be safe.


76 posted on 04/29/2010 8:40:25 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Stayfree

I wonder if pouring white vinegar in when it’s rinsing, or in a little rinse box or something (I’m not used to dishwashers) would help. I have very hard water and I use it for a lot of cleaning purposes to avoid soap scum, even using in rinse water when washing hair.


77 posted on 04/29/2010 8:41:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: EBH

I need to read the thread before posting!

(just added my .02 about white vinegar..)

I buy more white vinegar when I’m down to only 5 gallons on hand.


78 posted on 04/29/2010 8:43:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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