Posted on 04/29/2010 4:00:58 PM PDT by Stayfree
My wife has discovered that P&G's Cascade started reformulating in March. And as your chief cook and bottle-washer will soon discover, it is not the dishwasher that is leaving a white residue on all the glassware, it is the lack of phosphates in your favorite dishsoap.
I thought that was just Spokane?
I guess we need to get rid of all ocean water too then.
Already used that crap, and it’s just that!
I wonder then where you can get phosphate to add ...
Why I am in favor of phosphates being removed from detergents (the phosphate mines at Bartow, FL are our only national supply):
Phosphorus Famine: The Threat to Our Food Supply
Consumption; Demand; Pricesvox_mundi writes “
As complex as the chemistry of life may be, the conditions for the vigorous growth of plants often boil down to three numbers, say, 19-12-5. Those are the percentages of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium, prominently displayed on every package of fertilizer. In the 20th century the three nutrients enabled agriculture to increase its productivity and the world’s population to grow more than sixfold. But what is their source? We obtain nitrogen from the air, but we must mine phosphorus and potassium. The world has enough potassium to last several centuries. But phosphorus is a different story. Readily available global supplies may start running out by the end of this century. By then our population may have reached a peak that some say is beyond what the planet can sustainably feed.
Moreover, trouble may surface much sooner. As last year’s oil price swings have shown, markets can tighten long before a given resource is anywhere near its end. And reserves of phosphorus are even less evenly distributed than oil’s, raising additional supply concerns. The U.S. is the world’s second-largest producer of phosphorus (after China), at 19 percent of the total, but 65 percent of that amount comes from a single source: pit mines near Tampa, Fla., which may not last more than a few decades. Meanwhile nearly 40 percent of global reserves are controlled by a single country, Morocco, sometimes referred to as the “Saudi Arabia of phosphorus.” Although Morocco is a stable, friendly nation, the imbalance makes phosphorus a geostrategic ticking time bomb.
They have reformulated some Cascade already. Look for black stains on your silverware that do not come off.
I switched brands twice and still couldn't get clean dishes.
We're being so overwhelmed by insanity and evil, I'm beginning to feel like one of the prophets ... crying out to God for relief from oppression.
I live in the Tri-Cities and when I just went to Costco I looked at the Cascade and saw there is no longer phosphates in it.
You can buy a cheap package of trisodium phosphate cleaning powder at Home Depot. One brand name is TSP. Or you can buy the oldtime cleaner, Spic'n'span, which has a tsp component. Store it in bottles; it's not expensive to store enough for the rest of your life. Add just a few grains to your dishwasher product each time.
This is such a ubiquitous chemical that there must be plenty of sources from which it could be processed. I think they mines are currently the “only” sources simply because they are cheaper than any of the alternatives, not because there aren’t any alternatives.
Cool, there’s some TSP in the garage ... just wondering how long that stuff will be on the market ....
We have the right to pump as much and as many phosphates into anything we want...what’s this country coming to?
Thanks.
Good move. The stuff is nasty.
Any hardware store. Trisodium Phosphate, TSP. About $3.00 a pound.
No, I have no idea how much you would have to use, but it wouldn’t be a lot....
I wondered what had changed. Everything in the dishwasher had white residue all over it.
That’s it, isn’t it? TSP — thanks. Great idea.
Not so much. I've been looking for various fertilizers this spring and I cannot find the numbe on most of them. What gives? It's always been there before. I want it to be big and right up front so that it smacks me in the face. I don't want to have to comb through the fine print. I'm not kidding. Even on Miracle Gro, the numbers seem to be missing this year.
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