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U.S. Says Florida Can't Opt Out of Federal Healthcare
HEALTH NEWS FLORIDA ^ | 4/23/2010 | Carol Gentry and Jim Saunders

Posted on 04/23/2010 11:58:03 AM PDT by tutstar

By Carol Gentry and Jim Saunders 4/23/2010 © Health News Florida Only hours after the Florida House and Senate voted to “opt out” of the new federal health law, the top U.S. health official said Thursday night that will not be permitted.

Without mentioning any particular state or going into detail, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that state and local officials can vent all they want about a so-called “federal takeover” of health care. But they cannot deny their citizens access to its benefits or requirements, she told the Association of Health Care Journalists. Our eAlert subscribers read it first! “They may want to opt out, but they don’t get to opt out all of their citizens who want and need health care,” Sebelius said.

Florida has an estimated 4 million uninsured, most of whom will be covered when the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) takes full effect in 2014.

At least 30 states have passed state constitutional amendment legislation similar to that approved by the Florida Legislature, according to theNational Conference of State Legislatures.

Sebelius said the backlash against the ACA has been ginned up by “misinformation,” much of it deliberate. Thus HHS will be setting up an Internet site to answer frequent questions and a toll-free helpline, similar to that operated for Medicare beneficiaries. HHS staff members present at the conference said they hope to have the Internet site up by July 1 and the help desk soon after.

The opt-out measure passed in the House and Senate on Thursday, a proposed amendment to the Florida Constitution, will go before voters in the November election. The proposal says, in part, that Floridians may not be forced by law to "participate in any health-care system.''

Dividing along almost strict party lines, the House passed the proposal 74-42, and the Senate followed in a 26-11 vote. Republican supporters say the issue is a matter of freedom and preventing encroachment by the federal government.

"The fact that we have to have this debate in the United States of America is troubling and bizarre,'' said Rep. Mike Horner, R-Kissimmee.

Democrats said the proposal's supporters have spent more time trying to prevent expansion of coverage than they have on solving the state's health-care problems.

"That is the folly of this moment, and this constitutional amendment is misguided in the extreme,'' said Sen. Dan Gelber, D-Miami Beach.

The measure is primarily aimed at part of the health-reform law that will eventually require people to buy health insurance or face financial penalties --- a concept known as the "individual mandate.'' Republicans in Tallahassee and other state capitals have launched numerous efforts to allow people to opt out of the requirement since the Democrat-controlled Congress passed it last month.

At the same time, Republican Attorney General Bill McCollum has launched a separate legal battle challenging the federal law. That lawsuit is pending.

Democrats have repeatedly argued that the legislative attempts to allow Floridians to opt out of the federal law would violate the so-called "supremacy clause'' of the U.S. Constitution. That clause generally gives precedence to federal law over state law when conflicts occur.

"We should not step on the United States Constitution, and that's what you are doing now,'' Davie Democrat Martin Kiar said during the House debate today.

But supporters dispute that the supremacy clause bars the state from allowing people to avoid the individual mandate. "The supremacy clause does not say the feds control the states,'' Melbourne Republican Ritch Workman said.

Supporters also say that even if the proposal ultimately is found to violate the supremacy clause, it would remain in place to protect Floridians from future state health-care requirements. As an example, it would prevent Florida from approving coverage requirements similar to those in Massachusetts.

More broadly, however, Palm Harbor Republican Peter Nehr said it is the Legislature's duty to "step up and reassert the rights of Floridians.''


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To: nutmeg

Ping!


241 posted on 04/23/2010 8:33:51 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: tutstar
Remember who is talking here: Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius

She too is after lifelong power dictatorship as underlord servant to oBummer.

242 posted on 04/23/2010 8:36:30 PM PDT by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: tutstar
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
243 posted on 04/23/2010 8:43:13 PM PDT by LouD ("against all enemies, foreign and domestic...")
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To: tutstar

All I can can say is “YES WE CAN..AND WE WILL!”


244 posted on 04/23/2010 9:00:00 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: tutstar

Watch us.


245 posted on 04/23/2010 9:01:22 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: tutstar

Millions will stop paying their income taxes and will apply for new Social Security numbers.


246 posted on 04/23/2010 9:08:33 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Candor7

Great idea! If ZERO can have multiple Social Security numbers we should be able to as well!


247 posted on 04/23/2010 9:11:01 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: tutstar

So where is our modern day Betsy Ross designing our new anti-Obamacare flag?

We need one NOW, we need it EVERYWHERE.


248 posted on 04/23/2010 9:13:04 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: tutstar; All

249 posted on 04/23/2010 9:15:58 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: tutstar

Florida needs to pass the laws AZ passed and hopefully will pass:

1. Illegal immigration law
2. Eligibility law - show us the BC.


250 posted on 04/23/2010 9:34:41 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: tutstar
U.S. Says Florida Can't Opt Out of Federal Healthcare.

Oh yeah? Just watch.

251 posted on 04/23/2010 10:11:36 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has it limits.)
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To: Cheerio
Or Kelo vs. New London. I don't trust the courts to properly decide Constitutional issues any more than I trust Congress or the Obammunist to abide by it. I know what the Constitution means...it's so easy, even a caveman can understand it.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

252 posted on 04/23/2010 10:15:51 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: screaminsunshine
"Run up the Stars and Bars!"

Last time it was a fight between the Blue and the Gray this time its gonna be the Red States against The Blue States...

253 posted on 04/23/2010 10:18:54 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: tutstar

You know, there’s been deadly wars over this kind of thing.

These idiots in Washington are playing with fire.


254 posted on 04/24/2010 12:30:37 AM PDT by DB
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To: tutstar

Marked


255 posted on 04/24/2010 12:46:30 AM PDT by KarenMarie (NEVER believe anything coming out of DC until it's been denied.)
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To: timestax

And the Muslims...and the Amish...


256 posted on 04/24/2010 1:09:43 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: mojitojoe

You are now seeing the direct effects of liberalism. Up untill this past year, we’ve only seen the indirect effects of liberalism. It’s going to get a lot more sickening before it’s over. The entitlement-minded freeloaders will riot and break things and throw very expensive tantrums as their ‘free ride’ comes to an end. It’s been building up to this showdown/takeover for over half a century.

The leftists in DC and their commie handlers won’t relinquish the power they’ve grabbed easily. This will be a fight to the death. Either the death of liberalism in this country....or the death of America as a free nation.


257 posted on 04/24/2010 1:53:28 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: Bokababe

That kinda screws us.


258 posted on 04/24/2010 2:57:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Genoa; dcwusmc; HKMk23; Edgerunner
Stop this silliness about states passing laws to negate or restrict the implementation of a federal law.

Resistance by the states to an overreaching federal government is as old as our republic.

Check out this resolution from the VA House of Delegates, 1799:

“That this Assembly doth explicitly and peremptorily declare, that it views the powers of the Federal Government as resulting from the compact to which the States are parties, as limited by the plain sense and intention of the instrument constituting that compact—as no further valid than they are authorized by the grants enumerated in that compact; and that in case of a deliberate, palpable, and dangerous exercise of other powers, not granted by the said compact, the States who are parties thereto have the right and are in duty bound to interpose for arresting the progress of the evil, and for maintaining within their respective limits the authorities, rights, and liberties appertaining to them.”

259 posted on 04/24/2010 3:45:55 AM PDT by Jacquerie (The children of citizens who died in battle should be maintained at public expense.- Aristotle)
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Here’s the list of agencies created from the HC bill:

“159 New Government Agencies Won’t Improve Health Care”

http://www.aolnews.com/healthcare/article/opinion-159-new-government-agencies-wont-improve-health-care/19407363


260 posted on 04/24/2010 3:59:42 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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