Posted on 04/20/2010 11:26:05 AM PDT by FredDardick
It looks like somebody is going to have to update the Waco Siege page on Wikipedia. Apparently the whitewashed history that former President Bill Clinton would like us to believe regarding the 1993 federal assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, is missing important details regarding his own personal involvement.
In response to Bill Clintons highly publicized linking of the Tea Party movement to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing in an op-ed piece for the New York Times, former Clinton adviser Dick Morris disclosed on Monday that it was Clinton himself, and not Attorney General Janet Reno, as Americans have been led to believe for the past 17 years, who called the shots during the 1993 botched invasion that led to the death of seventy-six people.
(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...
That's not what the warrant says.
I am not that intested enought to look it up, but thought someone might have the answer......have a great evening..
Just as valid evidence for Sneakyman Inc..
Thanks : )
I did mix them up.
Koresh's friend was a gun dealer. According to government records, Koresh was not a licensed dealer, himself.
Sky, you are mild, believe me! LOL.
Thank you, always good to get my facts as straight as I can...:O) Every think I get that is wrong, I blame on Old Timers disease. Good excuse when you get to be my age..
Not ENTIRELY. The warrant also covered the child abuse claims.
THE UNWARRANTED WARRANT:THE WACO SEARCH WARRANT AND THE DECLINE OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT
A careful study of the Waco search warrant reveals numerous flaws, not just with the warrant application but with search and seizure law as it has developed in the 1990s.
In this article, we examine in detail how the Waco warrants were procured and use the flaws in the Waco warrants to illustrate broader trends which have encroached the Fourth Amendment and other parts of the Constitution in the 1980s and 1990s. Part one of this article sets forth the background to the BATF investigation of the Branch Davidian residence at the Mount Carmel Center, outside of Waco, Texas, and suggests that there is no good reason for the federal BATF to have jurisdiction over the tax offenses it was allegedly investigating. Part two studies the warrant application and reveals how the application was riddled *2 with errors of law and fact, and offers reforms for how to reduce false or misleading statements in future warrant applications. Part three investigates the possibility that the lawful exercise of First Amendment rights may have been a key element in the BATF's determination that there was probable cause for the Waco raid. Part four proposes two broader reforms to reduce the poor quality law enforcement work of which the Waco warrant was symptomatic: first, replacing the Gates [3] "totality of the circumstances" standard for judging the sufficiency of a warrant application with the two-part Aguilar [4] test to offer magistrates better guidance; second, reinvigorating the Exclusionary Rule.
David Kopel is usually considered a solid source in conservative circles.
>blush< ... someday I hope to meet more of my Freeper friends. Those I know in Seattle I’ve met ...
No, it’s not what the warrant says.
As Bugs would say ... “You don’t know me very well do you?” :)
Which part? I have the warrant right in front of me.
At any rate, the amount Weaver cut off below ATF-mandated legal length was 1/4 inch or less -- so, I was agreeing with you... The whole Ruby Ridge thing was a Fed-created "gotcha" that led to multiple murders by cop...
Um, they didn’t bring the whole building down. Nichols knew how to shape the charge for max damage. McVeigh and JD#2 planted it.
Thank you for the info...lots of different discussions going on with this thread..
ATF's basis for the assault on Waco is shot full of holes ...The warrant to search the Branch Davidian compound near Waco was procured on the basis of an affidavit from an inexperienced special agent with the ATF, Davy Aguilera. The affidavit was approved by a U.S. magistrate who is a former prosecutor. The affidavit, kept secret during the siege, now has been released; a review of it shows that it failed to establish probable cause.
Some parts of the affidavit were plainly false. For example, Aguilera told the federal magistrate that David Koresh had possession of a "clandestine" firearms publication.
The "clandestine" publication is Shotgun News, a national newspaper that carries want ads by gun retailers and wholesalers. The newspaper is sold at newsstands all over the country and to tens of thousands of subscribers. With a circulation of more than 150,000, it's no more clandestine than the New Republic.
(much more at the link)
Proper warrant my arse!
Nice cover - yep, jet certified .... been to my profile page lately?
My goal was not to save you time and arguing ...
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