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You Have the Right to Remain Silent (LT Colonel Lakin Read His Rights)
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Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D

Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.

Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.

Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.

Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.

Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrencelakin
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To: Penni

ping


301 posted on 04/13/2010 11:53:29 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Red Steel

Wowzers and will read through.

He is a hero.

His name will be remembered for a long time. In books.


302 posted on 04/13/2010 11:53:48 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Actually, consider this. If Laken were to question his superior officer, not Obama, then that officer would have to question his superior, along the chain of command, to the top. I wish I know more about it. They did not make the rule that you swear to, with a method to enforce it.


303 posted on 04/13/2010 11:53:52 AM PDT by etraveler13
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To: El Sordo

“You’re killing the buzz.”

Sorry. I will try to act less rationally. You know how I always tend to over-analyze things like how, and why, from where. . .

parsy, who is popping a valium. . .(Yes! I do have a prescription!)


304 posted on 04/13/2010 11:53:57 AM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Mr Rogers; LucyT
They certified his election. By definition, that means they agree he was eligible, and elected.

No. They certified he got the most electoral college votes.

As a matter of law, it wouldn't make any difference even if the certificate were the seminal act in installing him because the Constitution is couched in terms of "eligibility" to act as President. From a legal point of view, if he isn't eligible, he can't hold the office and act--he isn't there.

For the military officer, it makes a big difference. I assume they all have personal liability (no tort immunity) for people who get shot and property which gets destroyed, under international law because the exemptions apply only for things done under lawful orders of the head of state.

I am astonished that the Joint Chiefs have permitted this situation to continue.

305 posted on 04/13/2010 11:54:32 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: AFret.

If he based all his hopes on being charged with disobeying a lawful order in the hope that he can somehow link it with Obama then it looks like he did miscalculate. He’s being charged with missing movement and conduct unbecoming. Two charges the Army will have no problems convicting him of without Obama entering into it at all.


306 posted on 04/13/2010 11:55:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mr Rogers; LucyT
We executed them for following orders that everyone knew were illegal. . . . . . We did not execute anyone for obeying orders because Hitler wasn’t legitimately the head of Germany.

Every one knows that orders issued under Obama's authority are illegal--he isn't President because the Constitution says he can't hold the office. Don't see either a difference or a distinction.

We didn't execute people for the reason that Hitler wasn't head of state because whatever else he was, he was the lawful head of state.

307 posted on 04/13/2010 11:58:07 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: parsifal
In short, Lakin will fall on his sword. Obama will come out ahead. Simple facts of life.

Not sure if Obama comes out ahead:

"When To Shoot The Colonels" (by Tom Baugh) implodes a dangerous fantasy.

"At ease, Marines, and be seated" orders the gruff Gunnery Sergeant. "Now turn to Chapter 8 in your Military Constitutional Law text," he continues. "Today we discuss the appropriate conditions for shooting a colonel who is issuing an order which would violate the Constitutional rights of American citizens. Our first scenario involves gun seizures..."

Absurd, isn't it, to think that this sort of education is conducted among our armed forces? Yet, millions of citizens indulge this unspoken fantasy each time they imagine that the military exists to preserve our freedoms...

rest of article at link:

"When To Shoot The Colonels"

This just goes to show you how much of an idiot Obama The PunkFather is. He should have intervened PERSONALLY to make sure that MoH recipient Roberts didn't get any on him.

Now, the truth of Tom Baugh's article is proven for all the world to see, and draw conclusions from. I've drawn mine.

308 posted on 04/13/2010 11:58:26 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Watching the MSM with Obama is like watching Joslyn James with Tiger Woods)
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To: etraveler13

Question his superior office about what?


309 posted on 04/13/2010 11:58:53 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
The defense case is not following the orders based on the CIC not being legitmate. That is their defense.

But that is not what Lakin is being charged with, if this story is correct. He's being charged with missing movement, not disobeying orders. And conduct unbecoming of an officer. How is he going to work Obama into that? By claiming Obama ordered his unit to deploy? Or that since Obama is illegitimate then all orders given regardless of who they are given by are illegitimate? Good luck with that.

310 posted on 04/13/2010 11:59:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Uncle Chip

No, they did not. McCain’s SR511 only addresses someone born outside the USA.


311 posted on 04/13/2010 12:00:21 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Beckwith
You must be delighted.

No.

312 posted on 04/13/2010 12:00:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: pacowaco

Not even close....

Col.Roberts did not make that decision in a vaccum.
He was DIRECTED by higher authority. Whoever has “convening authority” over Lakin is the ONLY officer who can initiate court-martial proceedings.

For all we know.. Roberts and Lakin may play golf together.


313 posted on 04/13/2010 12:01:09 PM PDT by AFret.
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To: Mr Rogers

Mr Rogers, it is without question that Barak Obama’s father, Barak Obama Sr was born in Kenya, a British protectorate, Obama (Barry Soetoro), admits this in his own published books. Therefore Obama/Soetoro cannot be a natural born citizen by his own admission. The fact that Cheney illegally did not ask for dissent before counting electoral votes, does not make it legal. The fact, that there are 2 different certificates signed by Nancy Pelosi, and endorsed by Howard Dean, does not make him an NBC because he said so. The fact that 50 state secretaries did not do their job and confirm his eligibility does not grant him NBC status. The fact that our court systems play fast and loose with not granting discovery, does not make him a NBC, nor does the fact that SCOTUS will not hear the facts, qualify him. This protest did not happen AFTER he was elected. It happened when he was running. He was ramrodded in, and our elected representatives will not listen to their constituents. Lucas Smith has placed into States Evidence a Birth Certificate from Kenya, along with an Affidavit with the court systems, Cook refused to allow him to even speak, or become part of the court record. AJUS visited him, and the case was dropped. The Elephant in the room, nobody wants to recognize is that he is not an NBC by his own admission, and his first act as President was to seal his records from everyone.
Your the one who coined the phrase “Bananna Republic”


314 posted on 04/13/2010 12:03:54 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Uncle Chip

And Congress deferred that role to Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party apparatchniks and they turned in affidavits that never said that he was Constitutionally-qualified but concealed Obama’s ineligibility. So then we all go back to the courts and everybody gets a second chance to get it right. Is that okay with you???


Also....the states have a big say in who gets on the ballot...even for president

Which is why some states do not allow third party candidates on their ballots....unless they pay up front or get so many signatures on a petition....other states let just about anyone on a ballot

A state can refuse a candidate if they do not qualify. Note that there are a few states (Arizona, notably) that are trying to require a long-form BC for any Pres candidate. The states have that right, even without prior legislation, to disqualify a candidate

This is why the Obama BC issue is so important. If he cannot prove he is US born or eligible to be President IAW the Constitution...a state can refuse to put him on the ballot. The BC issue is SO IMPORTANT IN THIS ASPECT....and.......the ones who are fighting and harassing the Birthers are just ENABLING OBAMA FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2012


315 posted on 04/13/2010 12:03:58 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: etraveler13

Let’s see - Deal specifically stated he was NOT denying Obama’s legitimacy.

Keyes isn’t in Congress.

JD Hayworth hasn’t denied Obama is President.

Eric Swafford is NOT a member of Congress.

Guess I’m still waiting. What member of Congress has denied that Obama is qualified as President?


316 posted on 04/13/2010 12:05:03 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Will there be public outrage when Obama allows (by not intervening) a loyal officer to be court-martialled for serious crimes and sentenced to lengthy imprisonment and hard labor over a $12 piece of paper?

First, the "sentenced to a lengthy imprisonment and hard labor" bit, while possible, is not much more than hype coming from Margaret Hemenway, as is most of the press release. There's no official confirmation yet of how the military command will handle this.

Second, this story is currently getting very little attention in the media, so it's difficult to envision any "public outrage" at this point -- particularly from the families and friends of military now serving in Afghanistan, where every doctor is vitally needed. (And where another doctor had to be deployed in  Lakin's place, or worse, where a doctor had to remain after expecting to be relieved after a long tour.)

317 posted on 04/13/2010 12:06:31 PM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: edge919

When you make a claim, it helps to post a quote that supports your claim. Nothing in what you posted says his birth records were verified. At best, it is an admission that his original birth certificate was insufficient to prove a claim of birthplace. Whatever other vital records are being cited need to be documented to carry any legal weight.


What part of the word “VERIFYING: in the Director of the state of Hawaii’s Health Department’s statement don’t you understand?:

Just because you don’t accept the verification doesn’t mean that it didn’t occur.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health VERIFYING Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

As for “legal weight” there have now been 68 adjudications of lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility including 7 at the US Supreme Court and no challenging plaintiff has prevailed in any of them.
The short form Certification of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii clearly states: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

All the information needed to verify Article 2 Section 1 eligibility is on the short form issued by the state of Hawaii.


318 posted on 04/13/2010 12:06:34 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: etraveler13

“Mr Rogers, it is without question that Barak Obama’s father, Barak Obama Sr was born in Kenya, a British protectorate, Obama (Barry Soetoro), admits this in his own published books.”

Correct.

“Therefore Obama/Soetoro cannot be a natural born citizen by his own admission.”

Incorrect. You apparently are using a different definition of NBC than what all the states, Congress etc are using.

And no, you don’t get to make up your own legal definition of NBC...time to get a different legal dictionary than “Uncle Chip’s”


319 posted on 04/13/2010 12:08:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: vigilante2; Red Steel
2 million is easier to come up with than a BC

At this point it would seem that it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than to find out the truth about bammie.

320 posted on 04/13/2010 12:08:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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