give this guy an honorable discharge. I f he really doesn’t want to go over there...don’t send him. this doesn’t happen that often...can you say FT Hood?
its just not worth it...the guy may be legit, but this is no place to take chances.
You insist on calling “birthers” “cuckoos?”
He should not throw away his career for this. The decision whether or not to follow deployment orders is not the proper forum to address the birth certificate issue.
probably more to the story
As retired from an Army career, I would not fall on my sword as this LTC is literally doing by going for courtsmartial over the issue. I think the entire birth certificate non-release issue is a deception plan/red herring to cover up something else in BHO’s past.
I am curious why military.com’s editors thing the Lt. Colonel is bluffing.
He may be wrong, foolish, or heroically patriotic, but I see no evidence he’s bluffing.
What is their recourse if he continues to refuse? A Court Martial, which will open up discovery? Hmmmmm?
Not a winning strategy. His deployment orders don’t come from the President, they come from his commanding officer. Only the officer who got the orders from the President would be able to challenge those orders.
The orders aren’t unlawful, congress authorized deployments, so he couldn’t argue that either.
Secret Service could refuse to take a bullet for the President unless he proved eligibility.
Ping
Thank goodness my two deployments to OIF were under Bush 43 so there was no question as to his being a legitimate CIC.
Certifigate ping!!
From the article:
Phil Cave, a retired Navy judge advocate general who now practices military law as a civilian, said that even if Lakin does decide to deploy as scheduled, the Army still may be able to prosecute him. Under Article 88, Cave said, a servicemember can be charged for making disrespectful comments or remarks about the president.
Cave believes that Lakin’s supporters in the birther movement hope that a court-martial will give defense attorneys the authority to seek, through discovery, other documents to help make their case.
“They think that by using [servicemembers in a court-martial] they can get discovery like you could in any criminal prosecution,” he said. “That ain’t gonna happen. They’re not going to have discovery where they’re going to get the president to produce a birth certificate because, I’m reasonably certain, no military judge, no appellate court and no federal court, and no U.S. Supreme Court is going to say they have a right to get that as a matter of discovery.”
Don’t be an ass.
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why isn't Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn't Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?
Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.
I think that in opening arguments, defense should ask the court to define “domestic enemy”, and then declare Obama as a domestic enemy, and the defending officer’s oath to defend against all enemies in higher priority than his orders to deploy.
OBAMA IS A DOMESTIC ENEMY IF I’VE EVER SEEN ONE!
This man is the single most patriotic person in this country right now, and I support him and his efforts to dethrown this 0dictator.
“BIDEN” OBOZO!
All the Arse Hole needs to do is what everyone of Us and Senator McCain and every President before him:”Show His Freakin $ 10.50 Legal Birth Certificate that Proves or Disproves he is a Natural Born U.S. Citizen!!!!!
This is Obscene! that the Media is accusing Us of being Birthers! when they accused President Bush of every obscene comment and accusation under the SUN! I AM PISSED! WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STAND UP TO THIS POMPOUS ARSEHOLE AND FRAUD?? His entire History and Transcripts and every Legal Document is Frozen and Locked UP! This is Disgusting and the MO of a TOTAL FRAUD and Treasonous Plant! We knew every detail about President Bush’s Life, every minute detail about McCain’s Life and the Senate made him prove he was a Natural Born Citizen and this Flaming Idiot comes along and the MEDIA covers up his whole festering boil of existence!...Disgusting! and Multiple Acts of TREASON!!
What is a letter of counseling?