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Army Calls ‘Birther’ Doc’s Bluff
Military.com ^ | April 9, 2010 | Bryant Jordan

Posted on 04/09/2010 4:27:11 PM PDT by EveningStar

It's guts ball time for an Army surgeon who has vowed not to deploy to Afghanistan with his unit unless President Obama provides evidence that he's a "natural born" citizen of the United States.

In response to previously published statements by Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, the Army presented an official letter of counseling that directs him to report to Fort Campbell, Ky., on April 12 to begin deployment preparations with his unit.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birtherobama; birthers; certifigate; crackpot; lakin; military; moonbats; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaisabirther; terrencelakin; terrylakin
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To: The_Reader_David
He may be wrong, foolish, or heroically patriotic, but I see no evidence he’s bluffing.

We'll find out on Monday.

41 posted on 04/09/2010 4:57:35 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: EveningStar

Orly hasn’t been right since she got laughed out of clown school.


42 posted on 04/09/2010 4:57:36 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Red_Devil 232
You have to wonder who is enforcing the orders to compel him to report for duty?

I would assume his commanding officer.

What is their recourse if he continues to refuse?

Court martial for violation of several of the punitive articles of the UCMJ. Followed by dismissal from the service if convicted, loss of pension, possibly time in Leavenworth.

...What is their recourse if he continues to refuse?

Discovery of what? He's going to be charged with disobeying orders of his commanding officer or some other officer in the chain-of-command, missing movement, and probably some other UCMJ violations as well. What's going to be uncovered in that?

43 posted on 04/09/2010 4:57:54 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Are you saying that 100-150 million Americans are insane or retarded?

No. Not at all. But they are listening to the wrong people. History is replete with decent folks listening to the wrong people.

44 posted on 04/09/2010 4:58:42 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“You insist on calling “birthers” “cuckoos?””

He’s evidently a brainwashed Obama supporter with the customary bad manners. I thought the Daily Kos was the right place for those folks, but evidently some of them prefer to troll around here.

The Army hasn’t called Lt Col Lakin’s bluff until they convene a court martial and give him his due process right to subpoena evidence. Go ahead Kenyan imposter, make the Colonel’s day.


45 posted on 04/09/2010 4:59:17 PM PDT by devere
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To: GreyFriar

“...to cover up something else in BHO’s past.”

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Do you mean to say that there are things we don’t know about our prez? Wouldn’t we want to know that the POTUS is NOT an Al-Qaida agent? (Remember his many mysterious trips to Pakistan earlier in his life?) Not knowing the true identity of the POTUS is comparable to a ship without a rudder. What direction is he taking us?

Shouldn’t the colonel and all those being deployed have the right to know especially when their lives are put on the line?


46 posted on 04/09/2010 4:59:24 PM PDT by 353FMG (What else can Islam possibly contribute to America other than its destruction?)
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To: humblegunner

And Berg and Keyes are no better. Yet many good people insist on believing them.


47 posted on 04/09/2010 4:59:53 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: humblegunner
Orly hasn’t been right since she got laughed out of clown school.

She got laughed out of law school. She was probably valedictorian at clown school.

48 posted on 04/09/2010 4:59:59 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: EveningStar

From the article:

Phil Cave, a retired Navy judge advocate general who now practices military law as a civilian, said that even if Lakin does decide to deploy as scheduled, the Army still may be able to prosecute him. Under Article 88, Cave said, a servicemember can be charged for making disrespectful comments or remarks about the president.

Cave believes that Lakin’s supporters in the birther movement hope that a court-martial will give defense attorneys the authority to seek, through discovery, other documents to help make their case.

“They think that by using [servicemembers in a court-martial] they can get discovery like you could in any criminal prosecution,” he said. “That ain’t gonna happen. They’re not going to have discovery where they’re going to get the president to produce a birth certificate because, I’m reasonably certain, no military judge, no appellate court and no federal court, and no U.S. Supreme Court is going to say they have a right to get that as a matter of discovery.”


49 posted on 04/09/2010 5:00:06 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: EveningStar

So your belief that he is making a mistake is funny to you? You think it’s funny to call the man a ‘birther’ and a ‘cuckoo’?

I don’t think it’s funny at all. The man is a patriot willing to risk everything to stand up for our constitution. I wish there were more men and women like him in this country.


50 posted on 04/09/2010 5:01:10 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: jesseam

I shudder when I think of the many times that I was deployed to fight in the battle of the chow line.


51 posted on 04/09/2010 5:01:28 PM PDT by 353FMG (What else can Islam possibly contribute to America other than its destruction?)
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To: luv2ndamend
He holds on, they will change the orders. Been done last year.

Tell that to Connie Rhodes. She tried suing to block deployment claiming Obama was illegitimate. The judge tossed her suit and she wound up in the sandbox anyway.

52 posted on 04/09/2010 5:01:31 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: EveningStar

Who is leading all these people down the primrose path? Orly Taitz? If you stopped 100 normal people on the street, I doubt if 1 of them would know the name. How can the so-called “birther” leaders be Cassandras when their message never sees the light of day in the MSM?


53 posted on 04/09/2010 5:01:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: Non-Sequitur
She was probably valedictorian at clown school.

I don't think she's even qualified to be a clown.

SHOW THE CLOWN CERTIFICATE!

54 posted on 04/09/2010 5:01:54 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: EveningStar
You are falling into the same trap as I did: Disagreeing with Lakin’s actions is irrationally construed as supporting Obama.
55 posted on 04/09/2010 5:02:00 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: EveningStar

Since I’m guessing you don’t know him, nor
do you know what he knows, it would be
reasonable to add

“in my opinion”

after your blanket statement.

And which opinion, of course you’re
perfectly entitled, just as others are
entitled to theirs.


56 posted on 04/09/2010 5:02:31 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"...or some other officer in the chain-of-command ..."

Which ends eventually with the CIC. Then discovery could be used to ascertain if the CIC is eligible.

57 posted on 04/09/2010 5:04:19 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
What is their recourse if he continues to refuse? A Court Martial, which will open up discovery? Hmmmmm?

From the article:

“They think that by using [servicemembers in a court-martial] they can get discovery like you could in any criminal prosecution,” he said. “That ain’t gonna happen. They’re not going to have discovery where they’re going to get the president to produce a birth certificate because, I’m reasonably certain, no military judge, no appellate court and no federal court, and no U.S. Supreme Court is going to say they have a right to get that as a matter of discovery.”

58 posted on 04/09/2010 5:05:42 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: The_Reader_David

Obama is not a natural born citizen as per 17th century America refers to in Art II Section 1.

Thus he is not eligible yet Democratics refuse to follow the constitution.


59 posted on 04/09/2010 5:05:45 PM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Truthers are retarded.


60 posted on 04/09/2010 5:08:39 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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