Posted on 04/09/2010 4:27:11 PM PDT by EveningStar
It's guts ball time for an Army surgeon who has vowed not to deploy to Afghanistan with his unit unless President Obama provides evidence that he's a "natural born" citizen of the United States.
In response to previously published statements by Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, the Army presented an official letter of counseling that directs him to report to Fort Campbell, Ky., on April 12 to begin deployment preparations with his unit.
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It wasn't KNOWN then, so how could it have mattered?
But only until a President shall have qualified. Not permanently as is the case when a legitimate President is removed or dies.
MY grasp of the big picture is missing?
BP2 seems to think the important thing is that Obama was a BRITISH CITIZEN!
Now, try to show Obama has ANY attachment to the UK...ANY!
He HATES the UK. He has ZERO allegiance to the UK - but BP2 thinks that Obama’s father transferred his UK citizenship and loyalty to Barry.
Didn’t happen. The UK may be the only place in the world that Obama dislikes MORE than the USA.
And BP - you are a complete and total IDIOT!
You wrote to me:
“Regardless of the fact she died 15 years ago, unless you have dark skin and are NOT American, you probably would NOT have stood much chance with Ms Dunham in the first place.”
Now, stupid, go read my post #425.
YOUR fantasies about MY fantasies are as worthless as the fantasies of the LTC whose delusions are the root of this thread.
“Does it make any logical sense at all that they would
consider even a hint of allegiance to another nation by
virtue of foreign parentage in a future POTUS after their
lifetimes ??”
What does the Constitution say?
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
If they were not worried excessively DURING their lifetimes, they wouldn’t be more worried about AFTER their lifetimes.
And no, Barry Obama has NO loyalty to the UK!
BECAUSE THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT.
“It wasn’t KNOWN then, so how could it have mattered?”
It had to be known. If they moved close enough to Arthur’s birth for the birthplace to be in question, then they HAD to know Arthur’s father did not live in the US for many years prior to Arthur’s birth.
Yes, I remember now. Tired_CON thought he could cite the Indiana case making it look like it came from WKA.
And he then accused people of being disingenuous, the @ss.
That photo is just screaming to be captioned...
According to the British Nationality Act of 1948, Barry’s parents could have petitioned to have Barry made a citizen of the UK. He would not be so automatically.
In like manner, Barry’s mom COULD have applied to become a UK citizen - but she did not. After the divorce, it would have been murkier.
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It wasn't KNOWN then, so how could it have mattered? Exactly. Just because a former president was able to keep the wool over the American public's eyes until after he left office and burned all of his personal papers on his death bed, Chester Arthur's successful yet temporary deception does NOT set precedence for the British subject who's in office now.
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What in the heck are you talking about? If they had not exempted "at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution", there would have been no one eligible for the office of President until at least July 4, 1811, 35 years after the Declaration of Independence. No one can be a natural born citizen of a country that did not exist at their birth, although 35 years after other dates would have also been possible, such as the adoption of the Articles of Confederation, or from the signing of the treaty which ended the Revolutionary war and in which the UK recognized the US. But they chose the latest reasonable date.
He has no or little loyalty to the United States. He's got plenty for Kenya.
Mr Rogers is an obtuse ignoramus.
And just where do you think this "proving" is going to occur? or just a legal attempt to prove.
In Congress? ROTFLAMO!
No the only possible place is in the courts. The military courts are as much a part of the US Justice System as lower civilian courts. Eventually appeals from their decisions lead to the US Supreme Court, just as those from Civilian courts do.
He isn’t being accused of being a citizen of Kenya, but of the UK - which is not correct IAW the law.
I like facts. You have none.
There wasn’t a BIRTH requirement. ANYONE who was a citizen at the time of Adoption (“No person except a natural born Citizen, OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution...”) could become President, even if they or their parents had been born elsewhere.
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Barry’s mom COULD have applied to become a UK citizen Not a citizen, a British subject, as that's how British nationality law was until 1982. HOWEVER, it's a moot point. AGAIN, since you like quoting US v. Ark, does it say to apply TODAY'S citizenship laws OR references used at the time the Constitution was written by the Framers? “In particular, the Court noted the Constitution's requirement that the President be a “natural-born citizen,” |
Here's a fact. Obama received British citizenship at birth and became a Kenyan citizen a couple of years later.
A fact you seem to ignore and disregard it by thinking that it has no effect on being a natural born United States citizen.
Reading these threads studded with your comments is a pleasure and a joy.
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