Saying you won't follow orders because you believe the CIC is not Constitutionally qualified to be president is no better than those who refused orders during the Bush administration because they believed the War on Terror was unconstitutional or against international law.
This Colonel needs to be court marshaled.
“Sorry but you can’t have members of the military deciding they can interpret The Constitution of their own accord and that their interpretation should be legally binding.”
Guess you were never in the military. One of the things they taught you in basic was to never obey an illegal order. It was up to you to determine...
You are right. There is no possible reason for any commissioned officer, to have a public gut check. No US Constitutional duty is bound by law. It is all up to King George. Where ever you have gathered and held such notions is beyound the reach of our God given goverment, sir.
No, I think he was careful. Read his statement about the dangers of following illegal orders. The U.S. Constitution was written so that everyone could understand it. This is our protection against tyranny.
Look at yourself. You sound just like David Axelrod. The people who run American Thinker are 100x smarter than you. Nice to see them publish this. I think Obama was born here but I want the maggot to prove it same as John McCain provided his birth certificate immediately when asked to
If I had a chance to ask 0bammy a question at a town hall meeting I wuld ask, “How come John McCain showed his original birth certificate when asked to but you refuse to? Don’t give us a modern laser copy certificate of live birth. The American people deserve to see a copy of your 1961 original” “Do you consider yourself above the law and better than John McCain?”
court marshaled
You mean court martialed, don’t you genius?
“This Colonel needs to be court marshaled. “
Well, then you institute court marshal proceedings against him.
When I was in the service back in the 70’s the Viet Nam war was still going on. It was emphasized to us in boot camp the necessity of following lawful orders of our superiors in the chain of command. It was also emphasized that if we were given a illegal order that we not only had the right to question the order but the DUTY to question the order and seek guidance from higher in the chain of command.
That lesson if my memory serves me correctly was also re-emphasized every time I received course work in the training for my next step up the chain, E-3, E-4, etc.
I agree with his position and I thank God I am no longer in the position to have to question those orders and risk career and imprisonment as he will.
Personally, I expect that new orders will be issued that will avoid the neccessity of a Court Martial and the LtC will be mustered out quietly. Of course if that does happen...... Well, then all sorts of new questions will be asked, now won’t they?
He is NOT a Natural Born Citizen!!!!!!! You must have 2 parents that are citizens.......his father was an alien...a British subject.....hell, he wasn’t even a resident alien, he wasn’t even a naturalized citizen, he was a visiting student!!!!
Does history and the foundation of this country not make any difference?? Do we just change the rules to suit us or do we live within the rule of law?
We have diluted everything the founders fought so hard for...lets just move on, right?
Bull.
Michelle Obama said Kenya is his home country.
Lets take the First lady at her word.
I agree, but for a different reason. If he is court marshaled, the government would have to produce Obama's birth certificate proving he is a natural born citizen. Can't be guilty of disobeying a lawful order if the issuer has not costitutional right to hold his position.
Did you actually think before you posted that? Really?
The legality of orders all depends on the a constitutional presidency. An officer (or enlisted) can choose to disobey orders they believe are unconstitional—PROVIDED, they are prepared to take the consequences—meaning that they can prove their case.
The LTC is not saying he is the (sole) constitutional judge, rather he is putting the issue (and himself and his career) up to the legal system—which is, constitutionally, the legal judge of constitutionality....if and when some judge there has the gonads to take responsibility.
Already a reserve officer did the same thing—refused orders claiming Obama is unconstitutionally qualified...and the Army backed down, and rescinded his orders—making the case moot. I’ve never EVER heard of that before, even in the Vietnam era, and it really makes one wonder.
Obama has spent something like 1.5 million dollars to prevent a $10 document from being revealed—and you think its much ado about nothing?
Interesting... You seem to talk like you know a lot about the military, but yet you can’t spell COURT MARTIAL??? You may have been here since ‘98, but have you learned anything in that time? Surely just being AROUND here at FR for almost 11 years you’d think you’d know how to spell THAT by now... Just makes me wonder.
Oh, and an LTC demanding proof of Constitutional Eligibility of the CIC is WAY different than some Pfc. who is out to cause trouble politically. This officer took an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION — NOT to obey the President, and ESPECIALLY not one for whom there continue to be questions regarding his eligibility.
Now, the real question is — if this is such a waste of time and effort... why are YOU wasting YOUR time and effort coming on this thread just to say that???
The result of the Nuremburg trials post WWII requires Military Officers to question the illegal orders of their superiors. ( This is codifoed in the UCMJ) Obama has been illegaly installed as the CIC, and LtCol is correct in questioning Obama’s right to Command.....
“Sorry, but you can’t have members of the military deciding they can interpret The Constitution...”
How else would you expect them to be able to honor their oath to support the Constitution?
Bear in mind military officers do not swear to obey the orders of the president, they swear to defend the Constitution.
What is that?
How do one get marshaled??
What is YOUR credentials in the military???
You sound like Norway's QUISLING and he was shot by a firing squad after WWII for treason!!!