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Voters Say Don't Mess With Texas The Way They Did With California
Investors.com ^ | March 8, 2010 | MICHAEL BARONE

Posted on 03/08/2010 5:06:28 PM PST by Kaslin

'Stop messing with Texas!" That was the message Gov. Rick Perry bellowed on election night as he celebrated his victory over Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison in the Republican primary for governor.

In his reference to Texas' anti-littering slogan, Perry was making a point applicable to national as well as Texas politics and addressed to Democratic politicians as well as Republicans.

His point was that the big government policies of the Obama administration and Democratic congressional leaders are resented and fiercely opposed not just because of their dire fiscal effects but also as an intrusion on voters' independence and ability to make decisions for themselves.

No one would include Perry on a list of serious presidential candidates, including himself, even in the flush of victory. But in his 10 years as governor, the longest in the state's history, Texas has been teaching some lessons to which the rest of the nation should pay heed.

They are lessons that are particularly vivid when you contrast Texas, the nation's second most populous state, with the most populous, California.

Both were once Mexican territory, secured for the United States in the 1840s.

Both have grown prodigiously over the past half-century.

Both have populations that today are about one-third Hispanic.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: california; texas
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To: dsutah
I see what’s happening to the state, and it makes my heart break!

All of my grand parents are buried in California, and my entire extended family still lives there. I'm the only one in the family who smelled the coffee and got out.

Most of them will be there when the whole place comes crashing down, but they're all liberal Democrats, and this is what they've been voting for all these years. My sympathy only extends so far.

A friend of mine (and fellow Freeper) visited Carmel over the weekend, and she tells me that most of the stores there are boarded up and out of business. Scary.

21 posted on 03/09/2010 8:53:13 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gabrial

CNBC? How about CNBS. LOL


22 posted on 03/09/2010 10:14:15 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Windflier

Yikes, that is bad! I remember that Clint Eastwood was the mayor there, wasn’t he? Or was it Monterey? (sp/)Also, Sonny Bono was mayor of Palm Springs, wasn’t he?

Several members of my family live/lived in California, and as I said, I lived there from 1955 (birthdate)until 1962 or maybe 63. I had forgotten that I actually moved in 63, because my brother was born in 61. We moved when he was two years old. My Mom came from Nev., Dad from Utah, then they got married in Nev. and moved to Cali., because he was in the Marines and was stationed there after their marriage.

They started out in Twenty-nine Palms, and then went to Oceanside. That’s when that (once)little Marine training center out in the desert was born and is even bigger than Camp Pendleton now, from what I’ve learned! Then after they left Cali., they went to Maryland, as he was stationed in D.C..

Anyway, I still have some relatives there. Some came over from the the French Basque Country, through Ellis Isl., then to Calif. and Nev. All of those old folks are gone now, of course, and most the ones from my Mom and Dad’s generation are gone. There are still some cousins left, though.


23 posted on 03/09/2010 11:16:55 AM PST by dsutah
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To: dsutah
Yikes, that is bad! I remember that Clint Eastwood was the mayor there, wasn’t he?

Yes, he was the mayor of Carmel at one time.

As to my own history in California, I lived there for 44 years, altogether. The dirt of that place is in every cell of my body, but I can't see myself ever moving back. By the time California turns itself around, I'll probably have grand children growing up in Texas.

24 posted on 03/09/2010 2:00:27 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gabrial

Thanks for posting that fact-based rebuttal, Gabe.


25 posted on 03/09/2010 2:03:31 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
“Thanks for posting that fact-based rebuttal, Gabe.”

You are most welcome.

Previously, you wrote:

“Perry recent campaigns brags how he “balance the budget”. Now Texas is 11 BILLION over budget.”

Please see the chart below for the 2009 fiscal year which ended less than 90 days ago.

Here is an excerpt:

California 2009 budget:
Transparency: No
Shortfall $19.64 billion
Shortfall as a percent of General Fund Budget: 18.8%

Texas 2009 Budget
Transparency: Yes
Shortfall: None
Shortfall as a percent of General Fund Budget: n/a

http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/State_budget_issues,_2009-2010

In other words, Texas exited 2009 (one of the roughest year in recent history) with no budget shortfall.

I am not a fan of Rick Perry, but I am a fan of the Texas deficit hawks in the legislature that managed to pull this off.

Frankly, I think that is one MAJOR reason why so many people are moving to Texas from states like Michigan, Ohio, and California.

26 posted on 03/09/2010 2:47:16 PM PST by Gabrial
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To: Gabrial

Sorry, my bad got my messages crossed Windflier!


27 posted on 03/09/2010 2:52:05 PM PST by Gabrial
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To: Orange1998
Health care costs open $1.7 billion hole in Texas budgetThe following is the beginning of work to try to identify shortfalls and how to cover them. Perry has asked for recommendations on reductions and the submitted items so far amount to about $1.7 billion. Lots of revenue enhancements maybe needed to balance the next two year budget.

Texas' current two-year budget is going to run about $1.7 billion short in various health care programs, officials said Monday. A breakdown:

$1.3 billion: Medicaid

$142 million: health coverage for state employees

$88 million: correctional managed health care

$81 million: eligibility screening for Medicaid, CHIP, two other programs

$72 million: Children's Health Insurance Program

SOURCE: Testimony to the House Appropriations Committee


28 posted on 03/09/2010 3:18:00 PM PST by deport
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To: LUV W
I appreciated him refusing stimulus money. People hollered about it, but we dodged the feds having a strangle hold on our state pocketbook!


True Perry refused some stimulus money for extending unemployment benefits this year but he did take something over $12 billion in stimulus money to balance the budgets in 2009 that we are currently operating on. So he's not totally cleans as he likes to protray himself.

29 posted on 03/09/2010 3:59:49 PM PST by deport
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To: deport

I guess all politicians have their fingers in the $$$ pie...but I think we have the best choice, nonetheless. From what I have read about other governors, Perry is a virtual angel! LOL! We have the best state and hope it stays that way! Neither of the other candidates would have helped in this!...IMHO....:D


30 posted on 03/09/2010 5:20:33 PM PST by luvie (DIMs?......start packin'--you're fired!)
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To: Gabrial
Previously, you wrote:

“Perry recent campaigns brags how he “balance the budget”. Now Texas is 11 BILLION over budget.”

Not my quote. Another poster said that.

If you live in California and own a home, a small business, have a family, and pay taxes, you don't need to read a budget report to know which way the escalator's going.

Even though I'm a Cali native, four years ago, I had simply seen enough. The handwriting was writ large on the wall in dayglo colors, so I cashed in my chips and booked a one way U-Haul to Texas.

31 posted on 03/09/2010 6:00:28 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
“Not my quote. Another poster said that.”

Yep. Got that. My bad.

Welcome to Texas!

32 posted on 03/09/2010 7:56:00 PM PST by Gabrial
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To: deport

$1.3 billion: Medicaid =???? Hummmmm.


33 posted on 03/09/2010 8:01:41 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Gabrial
Welcome to Texas!

Thank you!



34 posted on 03/09/2010 10:18:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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