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DEMINT: White House land grab
Washington Times ^ | 3/2/10 | Senator Jim DeMint

Posted on 03/03/2010 6:28:44 AM PST by hope

You'd think the Obama administration is busy enough controlling the banks, insurance companies and automakers, but thanks to whistleblowers at the Department of the Interior, we now learn they're planning to increase their control over energy-rich land in the West.

A secret administration memo has surfaced revealing plans for the federal government to seize more than 10 million acres from Montana to New Mexico, halting job- creating activities like ranching, forestry, mining and energy development. Worse, this land grab would dry up tax revenue that's essential for funding schools, firehouses and community centers.

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To: george76
this land grab would dry up tax revenue that’s essential for funding schools, firehouses and community centers.

The federal government "owns" most of Idaho. The feds pay Idaho a "PILT" fee...Payment In Lieu of Taxes...to offset the inability to assess property taxes on that land. That federal money feeds into the county government budgets. Frankly, the tax revenue and the economic value of actual activity on the land would be far more valuable.

61 posted on 03/03/2010 9:22:23 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: editor-surveyor

If DeMint’s habit is grandstanding, I’d like to see his 40 Republican peers become grandstanders as well.


62 posted on 03/03/2010 9:23:43 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: hope

Clinton set the precedent for this with his Escalante National Monument in Utah. He did it with an Executive Order. “Stroke of the pen, law of the land, kind of cool.”

His purpose was to lock up an enormous amount of clean coal in order to please his corrupt pal in Indonesia.

Obama will do the same thing. They will be carefully chosen to block development of coal, oil, shale, or any other mining and energy. After all, he doesn’t really want us to become energy independent, does he?


63 posted on 03/03/2010 9:25:45 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

He wants solar and windfarms so that his pals at GE can make a mint.


64 posted on 03/03/2010 9:34:00 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Frantzie

Re youe #29:

“Utah needs to use the 10th Amednment....”

The First World War was pretty much over the coal mines of the Alcase/Lorraine, as I recall. Energy access had a lot to do with Act II from about 1940 to ‘45, didn’t it?

How many human lives were crushed out over that?

If were’ going to have another Civil War, our access to energy resources - especially our own - is about as good an excuse as any I reckon.

Any State that really gets serious about this 10th Amendment State sovereignty thing and flips off big Fed and Emperor O., they might just as well secede.

When that happens (notice I’m not saying “If”) I predict that we will have April of 1861 all over again - only with today’s technology, a lot worse.

Not an option to be considered at all lightly.

‘Nuff said about that.

Stay tuned.


65 posted on 03/03/2010 9:34:46 AM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Surprised?

No, and I never mentioned it again.

66 posted on 03/03/2010 9:36:42 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: edcoil
This administration is full of Clinton people. Glenn Beck is going to shed light on this next week. from the article:

Using the Antiquities Act, President Carter locked up more land than any other president had before him, taking more than 50 million acres in Alaska despite strong opposition from the state.

67 posted on 03/03/2010 9:36:48 AM PST by opentalk
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To: newfreep

Re your #32 -

“MAO-bama is trying to re-label everything American as obama-land.”

Just like an “Alpha Dog” lifting his leg on everything (and everybody) in order to “mark his territory”.

If you don’ mind being “marked”, then just stand there.

...But if you intend to challenge the top dog, you should know what to expect and be ready for it.

Sooner or later he’s probably going to 9!$$ on the wrong leg and fur will fly. The whole pack/s will likely be involved in one way or another, whether they want to be or not.


68 posted on 03/03/2010 9:42:23 AM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

“That is not the purpose of the Democrats. Their purpose is to destroy this country by crippling its energy production and controlling as much of the private property as possible. Eventually they intend to eliminate private property.”

Soooo, not IF, but WHEN this country turns communist, what will happen to all of this land which has been locked up by environmentalists? Will the land suddenly be put to use? Will our lands be stripped of its resources and all the billions will be in the hands of the ruling elite with crumbs thrown to the masses?


69 posted on 03/03/2010 9:47:03 AM PST by a real Sheila (A woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets ~ (Titanic))
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To: Kimberly GG

You’ve got that right. DeMint/Coburn are my choice and Bolton as Sec of State:)


70 posted on 03/03/2010 9:48:44 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

take the AK-47, drive home very carefully and never look back.


71 posted on 03/03/2010 9:50:38 AM PST by a real Sheila (A woman's heart is a deep ocean of secrets ~ (Titanic))
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To: highlander_UW

Re #55:

“What better way to balance state budgets than to sell land and put it into the hands of the American people, where it belongs?”

Oh I dunno; but a military invasion and occupation of your State by Federal troops, carpet bombing or nerve-gassing communities harboring resistance (they won’t do that for Mooslims but they sure as Hades WILL on US), the imprisonment of your State Legislators who supported the idea, and internment / execution of any resistors as well as the Federal annexation of ALL of your State might be a little costly as well.

But hey; don’t take my word for it; TRY it and see what happens.


72 posted on 03/03/2010 9:58:19 AM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Stop the land grab, now!!


73 posted on 03/03/2010 9:59:27 AM PST by blackie
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To: a real Sheila
Soooo, not IF, but WHEN this country turns communist, what will happen to all of this land which has been locked up by environmentalists? Will the land suddenly be put to use? Will our lands be stripped of its resources and all the billions will be in the hands of the ruling elite with crumbs thrown to the masses?

The answer to the second question is a resounding YES! They are not against the exploitation of the land or the use of all available energy, the cheaper the better. Environmental laws will be minimal. Look at Russia and China, and India for that matter.

A more intriguing question is what will happen to the alliance between the Communists and the Muslims in their efforts to defeat this country and control it? After they control the USA both will control all the oil and natural resource in the world.

The answer is bye, bye Muslims! The Communists are just as ruthless as the Muslims and since they have the upper hand in America they will control the strongest military with the most nuclear weapons. They will not tolerate terrorists and their ROE will be non-existent.

74 posted on 03/03/2010 10:10:00 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Recon Dad

“Federal government should be forced to sell all public lands outside designated National Parks.”

Sell????

It was/is not theirs to begin with.

I would say they return it with interest payments only that would be our tax money.


75 posted on 03/03/2010 10:12:00 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: a real Sheila

That is most likely what I will do.


76 posted on 03/03/2010 10:12:01 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: editor-surveyor

BTTT


77 posted on 03/03/2010 10:13:45 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: edcoil
Did Utah ever get its copper lands back from the Clinton administrations land grab.

I don't believe so. I believe it was a John Stossel report I saw recently that said the federal government owns 60% of the entire state of Utah.

78 posted on 03/03/2010 10:14:59 AM PST by highlander_UW (Obama has lost or not saved over 4 million jobs!)
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To: hope

"Land, see 'Snatch'"

79 posted on 03/03/2010 10:15:07 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: George Varnum

Most of the wars are over energy, water or resources. Almost always. In old days it was to grab other peoples stuff and put them in slavery.

This is all about keeping America from being energy independent. The Saudis et al in the middle east get $1 trillion a year from us. I bet they spend $100 billion a year to buy western politicians, law firms, think tanks and lobbyists. Primarily in DC and London.


80 posted on 03/03/2010 10:24:03 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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