Posted on 02/23/2010 2:47:33 PM PST by rabscuttle385
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) announced the members of the Senate Republican delegation to Thursday's White House health-care summit, and the list includes Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).
The Arizona Republican is not known as a health-care expert. But as the Republican presidential nominee in 2008, McCain offered a sweeping reform plan with some elements that overlap with the Obama proposal, and others that would have represented a radical departure from the current system.
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Ughh once again the Maverick RINO is going to “reach across the aisle” by bending over and taking whatever the Dems want to give.......
Oh boy. Just what we need. Will McCain NEVER EVER just GO AWAY? He has virtually destroyed the Republican Party.
Every one of these asshats needs to be put out of office, every single one.
Check this out.
SJB cleaning the vomit off his keyboard.........
Here’s the list of Senators going to Blair House.
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Mitch McConnell
John McCain
Tom Coburn (Okla.) & John Barrasso (Wyo.) both are physicians
Mike Enzi (Wyo.)
Charles Grassley (Iowa)
Jon Kyl (Ariz.)
Lamar Alexander (Tenn)
Not a good list.
Interesting...I haven’t read up on it- were all the senators invited? Or is this agreed upon ahead of time- we’ll send X from our side...you guys send X from your;s?
it’s over. McCrap will do a flips across the aisle to sell the country out
There. Fixed it.
Glad they at least have a couple of doctors, but I don't know whether these doctors are fiscal conservatives or not, so I will hold the applause, and keep my powder dry.
Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."
That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?
Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.
Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.
Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.
TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393
So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."
HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.
I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.
Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim DunkinAnother Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right
Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal
To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right
OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH
Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy
Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)
I am only happy with the two doctors and “probably” Kyl.
I’m not sure. Mitch likely selected. Grassley and Alexander are committee chairs. UGH.
Watch the polls in Arizona after Thursday....
I posted a while back that McCain was foaming at the bit, having to play conservative to get re-elected and not being able to reach across the aisle to his ole friends.
He just cannot stand not being the grand compromiser, the leader of the gang of bipartisan senators.
His showing up at this summit is about the same as his ceasing his campaign to rush back to Washington to help get the initial bailout accomplished.
Kyl stabbed us in the back on amnesty.
He may be ok here. I still donm’t trust him.
The doctors are fine.
Where is DeMint?
McCain will not give an inch — do you think he is dumb enough to give JD Hayworth a great issue to kill him with in the AZ primary?
The GOP senate list is fine. Coburn is exceptional and won’t take any crap from BO or any RAT at the table. Coburn knows every intracacy of this debate and will pummel anyone who dares to take him on. In fact, if McConnell is smart, he’ll make Coburn the point man. Being a medical doctor will resonate with the American public - especially seniors.
The best thing that every freeper can do is call your reps and senators — all of them — 202-224-3121 and Raise Hell about Obamacare. I informed my two RAT senators offices today that if they even go near using reconciliation, I will vote straight Republican in 2010 and 2012 — from Governor to dogcatcher. They got the message.
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