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To the ObamaCare Barricades (WARNING: Illegal Health Care is coming with the Public Option)
Wall St Journal ^ | Feb 20, 2010 | editorial

Posted on 02/20/2010 3:01:17 AM PST by The Raven

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Liberals are making a bid to restore the "public option," ObamaCare's most controversial and destructive inspiration. Some 18 Senators as we went to press—led by Colorado's Michael Bennet and growing to include New York's Chuck Schumer on Thursday—have endorsed slipping this government-run insurance entitlement in the reconciliation process that would let Democrats abuse Senate rules to hustle ObamaCare into law with 50 votes. Vehemence among House progressives is also at a fever pitch, though it always is.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius joined the mob, telling MSNBC's Rachel Maddow that if the public option is "part of the decision of the Senate leadership to move forward," then the White House is all-aboard. Right on cue, Majority Leader Harry Reid put out a statement that he'll work to "craft a public option that can overcome procedural obstacles."

On that score, the main obstacles to this agenda aren't procedural but moderates in his own party. Rational Democrats killed the public option because it is hated by the insurers that will be driven out of business by its subsidy advantage, by the doctors and hospitals that will be forced to accept its below-market rates, and by the taxpayers who will get stuck with the bill. On the other hand, this new political strategy might fire up the dispirited liberal base—and allow the White House to cast the GOP as obstructionist going into the health summit next week.

It really does seem as if the Democrats are gearing up for Pickett's reconciliation charge. What was that again about "the best ideas from both parties"?

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: democrat; democrats; govhealthcare; healthcare; impeachobama; obama; obamacare; publicoption; socialism; socializedmedicine; spreadingthewealth; wreckinghealthcare
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To: The Raven

For a peek inside the minds of the radical Leftists atop our government, spend an evening with Eric Hoffer's The True Beliver.

21 posted on 02/20/2010 4:04:15 AM PST by Jacquerie (Truth to the Left is that which advances their goals. Factuality is irrelevant.)
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To: Man50D

>>Any version of federal health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not specifically list health care as a power to be regulated by Congress

They, of course, use the commerce clause and ignore the rest.

If we want to defeat socialism - we need to amend the constitution


22 posted on 02/20/2010 4:21:58 AM PST by The Raven
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To: The Raven

“Once and for all proving the Dems are snakes.”

Nah. Once and for all proving the Dems are
totalitarian scu&bags.

IMHO


23 posted on 02/20/2010 4:25:13 AM PST by ripley
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To: coaltrain

The only right and proper “new bill” would be one that crafts a process and plan to get the government completely out of the health care business of the American people. This whole thing didn’t start going off track until the Feds put their stinking hands in the batter back in the 60’s and 70’s.

It’s time to take back the country. This garbage is a good place to start.


24 posted on 02/20/2010 4:27:16 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: The Raven

Considering the support, or extreme lack thereof, in the numerous polls I’ve seen to date, this is nothing short of a political death wish.


25 posted on 02/20/2010 4:29:01 AM PST by RU88 (Bow to no man)
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To: MrDem

“We’ll shove this so far up your collective a**es come november you won’t ever recover!”

What sweet words and what a joy it would be to watch this whole bunch of Democrat/Communist/Progressive, viet cong/kmehr rouge-loving scu&bags
being escorted to the exits.

IMHO


26 posted on 02/20/2010 4:32:24 AM PST by ripley
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To: All

Some relevant quotes:

For those people, it may take a political catastrophe of biblical proportions before they get it.
-Retiring Sen. Evan Bayh’s view on the unnamed left wing of his party Feb 2010

... they still plan to try to land this Pelosian triple-handspring-quadruple pole vault to passage
-Wall St Journal editorial on the latest underhanded strategy to force health care on the nation - reconcilliation

The Obama administration resembles nothing so much as a big house in the suburbs where the parents are away for the weekend.
-Greg Lewis, American Thinker


27 posted on 02/20/2010 4:34:09 AM PST by The Raven
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To: ronnie raygun
The very next day after the November elections when most of these criminals are civilianized should be the day we beginn prosecuting them, a mass prosecution!

Why wait?


28 posted on 02/20/2010 4:39:12 AM PST by magooey (then - NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE!, now - NO DATA! NO WARMING!)
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To: The Raven
They, of course, use the commerce clause and ignore the rest.

If we want to defeat socialism - we need to amend the constitution


Amending the Constitution will not ensure future politicians will not attempt to usurp it and we will be right back to square one. We don't need to amend the Constitution! We need to hold politicians accountable to the written words in the Constitution. The ICC was specifically in reference to commerce moved across state lines. It was not written to give Congress unlimited and sweeping powers.


29 posted on 02/20/2010 4:39:37 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: The Raven
It's time for the Republicans to Filibuster.
30 posted on 02/20/2010 5:12:08 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: hocndoc
March 1, 2010, doctors who take Medicare will see a 21% across the board cut on what we’re paid.

The medical profession will have to stand up, stick together, and say NO WAY. You'll just have to refuse to treat any medicare patients. In 30 days congress would rescind the bill.

At the same time it would be manditory that the medical profession put the blame on congress and the federal government.

But that won't happen!

31 posted on 02/20/2010 5:32:23 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: The Raven
Majority Leader Harry Reid put out a statement that he'll work to "craft a public option that can overcome procedural obstacles."

Notice that he did NOT say, "craft a public option that has the support of the public". Noooo. He's going for a bill that he can sneek in through the back door.

32 posted on 02/20/2010 5:54:22 AM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: The Raven

This is how they’ll fund this sucker....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2454137/posts


33 posted on 02/20/2010 5:55:44 AM PST by mo
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To: chainsaw

“March 1, 2010, doctors who take Medicare will see a 21% across the board cut on what we’re paid.”

nonsense.This is how the whole thing’s gonna get paid...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2454137/posts


34 posted on 02/20/2010 5:57:21 AM PST by mo
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To: chainsaw
You'll just have to refuse to treat any medicare patients.

Some already do. But this is going to cause a landslide.

And don't expect the "public option" (so called) to pay any more than Medicare.

35 posted on 02/20/2010 5:57:31 AM PST by thulldud
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To: chainsaw
“It's time for the Republicans to Filibuster.”

From what I've seen they plan to do this through reconciliation ie no Filibuster. I've also heard that despite no Filibuster, every amendment introduced (in reconciliation) is allowed 36 hours of discussion and there is no limit to the number of amendments that can be introduced; so you “ladder” them out every 36 hours ad infinitum.

I hope this is an accurate observation. Can anybody add to this?

36 posted on 02/20/2010 6:10:45 AM PST by Don@VB
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To: The Raven
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

Snip

The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware.

37 posted on 02/20/2010 7:20:45 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: The Raven

We are bankrupt and they want more entitlements......wow!


38 posted on 02/20/2010 9:55:56 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The Raven

Dialogue from “The Patriot”

CORNWALLIS: My reputation suffers because of your incompetence! That man insults me!

TAVINGTON: Quite impressive for a farmer with a pitchfork, wouldn’t you say?

CORNWALLIS: I want you to find that man. I want you to capture him.

TAVINGTON: The man has the loyalty of the people. They protect him. Protect his family. Protect the families of his men. I can capture him for you. But to do so requires the use of tactics that are somewhat… what was the word your lordship used? “Brutal”, I think.

CORNWALLIS: Go on.

TAVINGTON: I am preparing to do what is necessary. I alone will assume the full mantle of responsibility for my actions free of the chain of command rendering you blameless. However, if I do this, you and I both know that I can never return to England with honor. What, I wonder, is to become of me?

CORNWALLIS: When this war is over here in the colonies, the new aristocracy will be landowners.

TAVINGTON: Tell me about Ohio.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/language_tips/2007-03/28/content_838730.htm

(And look what the URL is for the source....)


39 posted on 02/20/2010 1:26:53 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: GailA
This is the reply I got when I went to the link:

That page has gone AWOL!

(wonder who removed it and why?)

40 posted on 02/20/2010 5:22:50 PM PST by Ros42
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