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Another concealed carry holder commits mass murder. (BARF ALERT)
Roanoke Times ^ | 01-20-2010 | Dan Radmacher

Posted on 01/20/2010 6:12:40 PM PST by freedomwarrior998

What does Christopher Bryan Speight, the suspect in eight shooting deaths in Appomattox have in common with Michael McClendon, Paul Michael Merhige, Troy Brake, Frank Garcia, William Maxwell, George Sodini and too many others?

All, like Speight, are accused or have been convicted in the last couple years of multiple murders. And all, like Speight, had concealed carry permits.

This appears to be a growing trend - perhaps because states have been loosening requirements to receive a concealed carry permit? Anybody have other ideas why so many perpetrators of recent shooting sprees have been concealed carry holders?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; crime; gun; shooting; speight; virginia
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The gun hating Roanoke Times is at it again, mindlessly twisting a tragedy because of their twisted psychotic hatred of guns. These are the same people that published CCW lists of permit holders in Virginia.

When I pointed out that guns do not operate without human influence, the nutjobs deleted my post over there.

I figure that a few of my fellow Freepers might want to explain the why Radmacher's logic is fundamentally flawed.

1 posted on 01/20/2010 6:12:41 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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Ping


2 posted on 01/20/2010 6:12:52 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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I tried explaining on the Roanoke Times Board that the CCW permit had nothing to do with the crime, and that as a full time LEO for many years, I knew that the overwhelming majority of police supported the 2nd Amendment.

They scrubbed my post off the board within minutes.

3 posted on 01/20/2010 6:14:20 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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They were all brought into the world by women too but I’m not sure that proves much. It doesn’t help our cause much no matter how you cut it.


4 posted on 01/20/2010 6:15:32 PM PST by refermech
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To: freedomwarrior998
People with drivers licenses are responsible for highway crashes and deaths.
Pass it on.
5 posted on 01/20/2010 6:16:40 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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Are we to believe the people in question WOULDN’T have murdered anyone had they not had a concealed carry permit?

This article is totally pointless. Would it make a difference if a drunk driver had a driver’s license?


6 posted on 01/20/2010 6:16:51 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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so 5 of them , OK how many gang bangers and thugs in the ghetto have shot someone today without a gun permit


7 posted on 01/20/2010 6:18:29 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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What does Christopher Bryan Speight, the suspect in eight shooting deaths in Appomattox have in common with Michael McClendon, Paul Michael Merhige, Troy Brake, Frank Garcia, William Maxwell, George Sodini and too many others

I guess the point he is making is that 7 crazies are enough justifications to disarm millions of law abiding, responsible gun owners. Yeah...that makes sense./s

8 posted on 01/20/2010 6:19:55 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Talk to these same folks and I guarantee you they will consider Islam a religion of peace, with a few wing nuts. Talk to them about concealed permittees, and they’ll label every one a vile person.


9 posted on 01/20/2010 6:20:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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There is only one certain way to protect the general public from such atrocities at the hands of gun welding killers.

Do away with the general public, for its own protection and safety of course.

10 posted on 01/20/2010 6:20:12 PM PST by ejonesie22
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If others had a right to carry, maybe he wouldn’t have had a chance to kill 8 people.


11 posted on 01/20/2010 6:23:51 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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I wouldn’t even waste my time there, quite honestly. I tried posting in several of Dan Casey’s blogs, and there are three or four left-wing lunatics that dominate his threads — including him.

They’re insane, and will never see your point on anything.

I never had a post deleted, but when I hit them with facts they simply ignored the post altogether.


12 posted on 01/20/2010 6:27:09 PM PST by AnglePark
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So the trend continues that the people that commit crimes like this surprise everybody, no one ever thought they would do such a thing. Some of them even were able to get CCW.

During the time span of CCW becoming so popular in the related jurisdictions, have the murder and armed robbery rates gone up or down?

I’ll bet a comment like this post would be deleted on their blog also.

Is this paper on the Dinomedia Death Watch list too?


13 posted on 01/20/2010 6:27:47 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (A "teabagger"? Say it to my face. ><BCC>)
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Do away with the general public, for its own protection and safety of course.

Look around at the bills being passed - you think this isn't the Rat's goal?

14 posted on 01/20/2010 6:29:36 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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A shrink once reported that after a cop gets a badge and gun at some time he/she will feel richeous and this is normal. What keeps a cop from building on that feelin is his superiors and peers who keep him reality based rather than God-like and wanting to submit justice.

I’d be willing to bet a lot of new CCW holders feel a bit of the same at one time or another. The problem with nut cases with a CCW is there’s no one to reel them in when they get froggy with someone.

15 posted on 01/20/2010 6:29:51 PM PST by Georgia1
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The leap of logic it takes to use the CCW in a causal relationship with the actions of the holder is one that ONLY a libtard could make...with a straight face.

It’s time to take back the country.


16 posted on 01/20/2010 6:30:38 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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Radmacher is the sleazy, anti-gun editor who allowed the publication of the Virginia state gun owner database in March 2007, complete with names and addresses. Total scumbag!

Roanoke.com drops list of gun owners

17 posted on 01/20/2010 6:33:53 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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From what very little I read about this case the guy lived in the home with the victims (or some of them I suppose as there seemed to be a lot of children with various last names) so it appears he didn’t need to carry anything anywhere to commit the crimes.


18 posted on 01/20/2010 6:34:14 PM PST by jocon307
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Seems like it doesn't it. Truth is stranger than fiction.
19 posted on 01/20/2010 6:35:52 PM PST by ejonesie22
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You don’t need a permit to be a criminal.


20 posted on 01/20/2010 6:37:01 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (I Upped My Monthly Donation To FR....Now, Up Yours.....)
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