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BINARY EXPLOSIVES: FROM DISCUSSION TO IMPLEMENTATION
INTERNET HAGANAH.com ^ | December 26, 2009 | Aaron Weisburd

Posted on 12/26/2009 2:37:05 PM PST by Cindy

SNIPPET: "Discussion: I first observed discussion of binary explosives on the al-Firdaws forum in January of 2007. In light of recent events I will post here my archive:"

SNIPPET: "Implementation: On Christmas Day, 2009, Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab boards a flight in Amsterdam, bound for Detroit, and on final descent he attempts to set off what was most likely a binary explosive. Thank goodness he either screwed up or had bad instructions, because the chemicals he was working with were evidently quite good."

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To: Cindy
We're spending billions on homeland security, and your survival might end up based on hand-to-hand combat with an armed terrorist on a plane in mid-flight.
41 posted on 12/26/2009 3:32:33 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: UCANSEE2

Yes, terrorism would have been ruled out immediately.


42 posted on 12/26/2009 3:33:43 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: centurion316; UCANSEE2

Perhaps the correct question is what would the official public version be.

At least two US airliners have been brought down in very similar circumstances.


43 posted on 12/26/2009 3:33:47 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: UCANSEE2

A rhetorical question to all:

Had he not have screwed up, would the FBI have determined that a fire caused by electrical wires running through the Center Wing Tank started the fire and caused the explosion?

Excellent observation...well done!!!


44 posted on 12/26/2009 3:37:06 PM PST by thinking
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To: Anti-Bubba182; Squantos; Oorang; Velveeta

Re Internal Bomb...

I have a thread covering the “rectum bomb” here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2326391/posts


45 posted on 12/26/2009 3:37:12 PM PST by Cindy
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To: meatloaf

I am sure the Imams would trick up their theology to allow for that. These guys are talking to the gullible set anyway.


46 posted on 12/26/2009 3:38:59 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Fido969

Yes..really, in my opinion; it can (and sometimes does) come down to that.

I don’t know if you’ve ever been a victim of a personal crime(s); I have.

When you have a split second to act — what will you do?

Will it be a “deer in the headlights” moment or will you just do what you have to do to rectify the situation?

In my opinion, in today’s world; people must ponder thoughts like these.


47 posted on 12/26/2009 3:40:27 PM PST by Cindy
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA; Cindy; fanfan; Oorang; Velveeta; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; Nachum; ...
Why are Muslims manning airport “security” checkpoints?

Authorities had been aware of Flight 253 jihadist for at least 2 years

Same link: US jihadists planned to target Pakistan nuke plant

Obama administration appoints Muslims to key Homeland Security posts--but__they're moderates, aren't they?

Islamists penetrate Western Security

The West's Islamist infiltrators

More Pentagon jihadis

Pentagon jihadis

Why should we take a chance?

Spy agencies fear some applicants are terrorists

48 posted on 12/26/2009 3:43:43 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: All; amom

Off Thread Topic:

Thanks to the suspect’s father for attempting to do the right thing. -Cindy

#

Thanks to amom for pointing to thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2415466/posts

Suspect’s Father Told U.S. of Son’s Extremism
New York Times ^ | December 26, 2009 | Eric Schmitt and Eric Lipton
Posted on December 26, 2009 1:37:37 PM PST by reaganaut1

The Nigerian man accused of trying to ignite an incendiary device aboard a trans-Atlantic jetliner on Friday came to the attention of American officials at least “several weeks ago,” but the initial information was not specific enough to raise alarms that he could potentially carry out a terrorist attack, a senior Obama administration official said on Saturday.

The investigative file was opened after the father of the suspect, Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, warned officials at the United States Embassy in Nigeria of his son’s increasingly extremist religious views, the official said.

“The information was passed into the system, but the expression of radical extremist views were very nonspecific,” said the senior administration official, who has been briefed on the inquiry but spoke on condition of anonymity because it is continuing. “We were evaluating him, but the information we had was not a lot to go on.”

The incident prompted a significant change to airline security on Saturday. Domestic and international passengers will not be allowed to move about aircraft during the last hour of a flight, and there will be extra screening of baggage at airports.

It was unclear whether Mr. Abdulmutallab’s name was entered into the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment list, which includes people with known or suspected contact or ties to a terrorist or terrorist organization. That list is maintained by the United States National Counterterrorism Center. It includes about 550,000 names.

Those people, however, are not necessarily placed on the federal government’s so-called no-fly list, which prohibits persons entering the United States because of known or suspected terrorists links. Mr. Abdulmutallab was not on that list, federal officials say.

Mr. Abdulmutallab [...] was carried off the plane handcuffed to a stretcher, his trousers sheared off.

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49 posted on 12/26/2009 3:43:46 PM PST by Cindy
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To: theBuckwheat

bomb in the crotch implies that there is a leg between the device and the outside wall....

But this mad-man was sitting over the fuel tanks, and force would have been directed downwards into the fuel tanks....taking the family jewels out as well....so much for 72 virgins.....


50 posted on 12/26/2009 3:44:12 PM PST by thinking
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To: UCANSEE2

I missed the “no passport” topic... Where is that newsy tidbit?


51 posted on 12/26/2009 3:45:28 PM PST by pointsal
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To: UCANSEE2

I missed the “no passport” topic... Where is that newsy tidbit?


52 posted on 12/26/2009 3:45:38 PM PST by pointsal
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To: UCANSEE2

I asked my husband that same question earlier today. If, God forbid it had gone according to his jihad plan, would we have ever known the truth. There is no way this one was getting covered up with the passengers alive to tell the story. Thank goodness for those alert passengers.


53 posted on 12/26/2009 3:46:55 PM PST by jersey117
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To: chilltherats

I don’t know why you say stuff like that.

He was an engineering student.


54 posted on 12/26/2009 3:47:31 PM PST by Cindy
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To: LeoWindhorse

Probably a very good suggestion....keep’m flying in the same direction....out of town.


55 posted on 12/26/2009 3:48:12 PM PST by pointsal
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To: upchuck

He was an engineering student.


56 posted on 12/26/2009 3:48:38 PM PST by Cindy
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Last summer I flew from Newark to Houston. A guy named Mohammed checked my bag at the curb in Newark.


57 posted on 12/26/2009 3:49:13 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Brugmansian

When you’re in the legal profession; everything appears lately to be “alleged”; unless of course it’s happening to you (generic you) of course.


58 posted on 12/26/2009 3:50:23 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Paleo Conservative
Maybe he still got a Darwin Award.

They'll just clone him.

59 posted on 12/26/2009 3:50:30 PM PST by granite ("We dare not tempt them with weakness" - JFK)
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To: jersey117

I fly regularly. Many times the cleaning or food crew are wearing muslim clothes.


60 posted on 12/26/2009 3:51:04 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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