Posted on 12/21/2009 10:05:52 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe
Huck, it all comes down to the fact that “men are not angels”.
There is no form of government, no constitution, no law
that will restrict men seeking power if they are not restricted internally by an/the objective moral base.
Really? Creation of a judiciary was not one the proposed changes to the Articles. You contradict yourself. How would you have changed the Articles to incorporate a Judiciary, regulate commerce and provide for federal taxation? Unlike you, who has evaded answering these simple questions, our framers took on the tough issues rather than snipe at the accomplishments of better men.
Ben Franklin was prescient when he stated at the end of the Convention:
“In these sentiments, sir, I agree to that Constitution,
with all its faults, if they are such, because I think a general government necessary for us ; and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered ; and believe, further, that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall be so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other.”
At the same time you think the most eloquent voice in opposition to a strong federal government, Patrick Henry, should not have. In fact you think his stature is enhanced by his absence.
You can't keep up with your own nonsense.
There is nothing wrong with the constitution. It just isn’t being followed by those in power. Just a few minor tweaks and we are good to go.
I keep asking, “if not now, when?”
Amen bro, Amen.
What is in a 72hr kit?
Do a google search. Plenty of recommendations on how to pack a light weight, yet surprisingly versatile, emergency kits.
I’d like some Morgan silver dollars myself.
That’s a grass-eater’s kit, and it’s pathetic. Anyone with that loadout will lose it (probably their lives, too) in a Ney york minute to the first opportunist witha gun or a knife.
Our 72 hour kits presume that you might have to abandon your vehicle and that you can and will walk and fight if necessary to a specific rendezvous point. The kits are modular and designed in layers, so that if you lose the (small) backpack, you’ll still have the sling bag with the 10 essentials and ammo. Even the clothing layer contains the ten essentials, edged weapons and ammo. Knives everywhere.
Kit includes an AR carbine, a Glock mod 20 in a drop-leg rig, a tomahawk, and a Cold Steel Recon tanto (my personal preferences - it’s what I know I can fight with). There’s 390 rounds of .223 and 72 rounds of 10mm for the pistol.
If you’re going to have to go down, then go down swinging.
5000 Year Leap is pretty good in this regard.
The truth is that some governments are better than others. None is foolproof, but some are clearly destined for tyranny, while others at least offer the hope---and the means--of resistance of tyranny.
But we are told that we need not fear; because those in power, being our representatives, will not abuse the powers we put in their hands. I am not well versed in history, but I will submit to your recollection, whether liberty has been destroyed most often by the licentiousness of the people, or by the tyranny of rulers. I imagine, sir, you will find the balance on the side of tyranny. Happy will you be if you miss the fate of those nations, who, omitting to resist their oppressors, or negligently suffering their liberty to be wrested from them, have groaned under intolerable despotism! Most of the human race are now in this deplorable condition; and those nations who have gone in search of grandeur, power, and splendor, have also fallen a sacrifice, and been the victims of their own folly. While they acquired those visionary blessings, they lost their freedom. My great objection to this government is, that it does not leave us the means of defending our rights, or of waging war against tyrants.
Patrick Henry, June 5th, 1788.
No, I didn't say he should have been there. I wondered aloud what difference it might have made had he been there. Jefferson favored the new system. Henry was adamantly opposed from the start. There was no point in his being there. He quickly formed the opposition, which was a necessary and useful role.
Thanks
You confuse your country with your government. I guess you love your government. Then bow down and show respect to your leaders--Pelosi, Reid, Obama, et al.
For me it’s all junk silver.
So far.
Because, as I said, they already had a judicial function, without having a permanent judiciary. Note the mode of choosing judges. Quite interesting.
The United States in Congress assembled shall also be the last resort on appeal in all disputes and differences now subsisting or that hereafter may arise between two or more States concerning boundary, jurisdiction or any other causes whatever; which authority shall always be exercised in the manner following. Whenever the legislative or executive authority or lawful agent of any State in controversy with another shall present a petition to Congress stating the matter in question and praying for a hearing, notice thereof shall be given by order of Congress to the legislative or executive authority of the other State in controversy, and a day assigned for the appearance of the parties by their lawful agents, who shall then be directed to appoint by joint consent, commissioners or judges to constitute a court for hearing and determining the matter in question: but if they cannot agree, Congress shall name three persons out of each of the United States, and from the list of such persons each party shall alternately strike out one, the petitioners beginning, until the number shall be reduced to thirteen; and from that number not less than seven, nor more than nine names as Congress shall direct, shall in the presence of Congress be drawn out by lot, and the persons whose names shall be so drawn or any five of them, shall be commissioners or judges, to hear and finally determine the controversy, so always as a major part of the judges who shall hear the cause shall agree in the determination: and if either party shall neglect to attend at the day appointed, without showing reasons, which Congress shall judge sufficient, or being present shall refuse to strike, the Congress shall proceed to nominate three persons out of each State, and the secretary of Congress shall strike in behalf of such party absent or refusing; and the judgement and sentence of the court to be appointed, in the manner before prescribed, shall be final and conclusive; and if any of the parties shall refuse to submit to the authority of such court, or to appear or defend their claim or cause, the court shall nevertheless proceed to pronounce sentence, or judgement, which shall in like manner be final and decisive, the judgement or sentence and other proceedings being in either case transmitted to Congress, and lodged among the acts of Congress for the security of the parties concerned: provided that every commissioner, before he sits in judgement, shall take an oath to be administered by one of the judges of the supreme or superior court of the State, where the cause shall be tried, 'well and truly to hear and determine the matter in question, according to the best of his judgement, without favor, affection or hope of reward': provided also, that no State shall be deprived of territory for the benefit of the United States.
Wow this is the first I have heard of Claire Wolfe !!! You FReepers are amazing!!! FR is always well researched.
I went looking for her web site and latest blog posts online, and sure enough her last blog posting was Monday, September 17, 2007.
http://billstclair.com/clairewolfe.com/blog.html
Thgat probably tells us more about what she thinks about the present situation today than anything she could write.
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