Posted on 12/21/2009 10:05:52 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe
I suppose I could worry about a visit from the Secret Service of even a dynamic SWAT encounter... but why? As I’ve pointed out many times, if they want me they can send a meter-maid to pick me up on her lunch break. I can’t run fast enough with this cane to get away and I’m too old and fat to crawl into a hole and hide. I don’t carry a gun anymore since my hands got so shaky I was a bigger danger to myself than any bad guy.
Come to think of it, all that makes me a perfect candidate for burning out! Yeah, that’s it! They can surround the house and fill it with CS gas, lob in a few concussion grenades then hold the fire department off until they’re sure I’m dead. Afterward they can circulate stories about my sordid past and all the violent things I had planned. Maybe even start a rumor that I had shaved my head in preparation for some major event.
I was only thinking of what a nut case you are, and evidently a murderous one, although you seem too cowardly to act yourself, so I guess the world is safe from your keyboard bravado when it comes to murdering Americans in acts of domestic terrorism.
You seem to have a penchant for deriving other peoples’ intentions and abilities from very little evidence. So far though, you have failed to answer the questions I posed to you in post #199.
Why?
I answered your post 199 which sounded like an Obama threat to me. You said that you have the desire but lack the ability now, “I’m old . . . too old to be of much use in whatever is to happen. Hell, if it holds off another year I might not even be around for it.”
You seem to desire armed conflict within the year correct?
Wellll, no. I don’t want armed conflict ever but I know that humans will never settle all their differences peacefully either. Any time two or more dissimilar groups or substances come together there is friction. Sometimes that friction can be alleviated with some sort of lubricant but it will never be completely done away with. With engines the solution is simple: replace the worn parts but with societies and nations it isn’t so easy. Here in the U.S. we tried eliminating the native indians and almost succeeded only to find it wasn’t such a good idea after all. Hitler tried something similar with the Jews and got his head handed to him. Stalin killed off a few million farmers and Pol Pot eliminated a whole bunch of intellectuals but each of them failed because they didn’t realize their limitations. Ideas can’t be killed!
Look at what’s happening in Iran right now. The ruling party is trying to eliminate the idea of — let’s call it “freedom” for want of a better term though most of the rioting students would probably be happy with a different flavor of despot. Regardless, the guys in charge right now are going to lose . . . eventually.
Here in the good ol’ Yew Ess of Aye we’ve had 230+ years of relative freedom. It’s coming to an end and there are a bunch of people, mostly older folks who remember what it used to be like, who don’t like that idea. So there’s friction between those of us that still think freedom is worth fighting for and those who think nothing is worth fighting over. I don’t think either group really wants to fight but neither wants to give up either.
Remember the movie “The Patriot?” The boogy-man in the movie was patterned after a British officer by the name of Banastere Tarleton (I hope the spelling is right.) In real life he killed wounded prisoners and behaved quite badly but he wasn’t killed. He actually lived to retire back in England where he was considered somewhat of a hero. In the colonies he had a different reputation.
We don’t have any idea what is going to happen here though there are a lot of people who compare our situation with other countries in the past and believe we will have to experience some sort of civil war to sort things out. The side that wins will write the history books and thus elect the heros and villains. You and I can express our opinions here and now but have little or no bearing on the final classifications. One of my ‘shirt-tail’ ancestors was Nathan Hale who most American history books refer to as a minor hero. If he’s mentioned at all in British histories of the time I would doubt he is held with such high esteem.
I have no great desire to shoot anyone but I also know there are some people who cannot be reasoned with or otherwise convinced to change their ways. What do I do when I meet one of these, roll over and capitulate? I’d be doing that forever and eventually end up their slave. I suppose I could get a job working for such a person and thus gain some measure of protection. But at what cost? Should I give up my life, my fortune, my sacred honor? I believe that subject was covered by better men than you or I so I’ll not try to rehash it here. I have already pledged my life to the cause of freedom. Inflation is shrinking whatever fortune I possess as I type this. My honor is a personal thing but it doesn’t depend so much on my fortune as on my pledge and whether I keep it.
I sincerely hope we both have a happy and prosperous New Year and none of these dire things come to pass.
That never happened, so you comparing Americans to Adolf Hitler and extermination of the Jews is startlingly antiAmerican.
Your posts including that one, ALL sure read to me as someone that is calling for violence and murder, even this year, and even against a person that I will not name.
All you seem to be able to do is point fingers and call names. Oh yes, you also have a vivid and dark imagination. So let’s get our cards on the table:
Do I think there will be violence? Yes, though not against Obama personally. Over the years almost ALL assassins and wannabes have been leftists and he’s their hero so they’re not going to bother him. Those on the right realize his violent death would make him a martyr and that wouldn’t be good for their cause either. The violence will come when some government agency makes a mistake and raids the wrong house and instead of killing the dog and all the inhabitants of that house the raiding party will suffer massive casualties. It will escalate from there and the real victims will be ordinary people, not because they deserve it but because that’s the way it always is.
Hitler is on record as saying that he patterned his attempted extermination of the Jews on the American crusade against the indians so such a comparison isn’t all that far-fetched. Whether the Turks were copying us as they marched the Armenians to their deaths is open to conjecture but that march bears similarities to the “Trail of Tears” the Cherokees left across the south. I don’t believe facing the simple facts makes me anti-American.
Finis.
You and Hitler are wrong, there never was any extermination or genocide or anything of the sort in America, it never happened, there was no such thing, that is a bizarre leftist myth, and the "Trail of Tears" was a mean and brutal relocation that I had family in, but it had nothing to do with genocide or a government plan to "exterminate" the indians.
There were very few indians that died in war with the US Army, and the American people, or as a result of any government action.
“For me, I am not ready to “shoot the bastards”. I am for non-violent civil disobedience...national strike, closing government like the capitol building, etc. I think the ‘magic’ moment if it is reached will be within a couple years. Let’s pray that we don’t need to go there and vow to work hard in non-violent means to achieve success. The founding fathers were brilliant in their design of our governmental system. We can literally have a non violent revolution and replace those in power. We will need to go beyond that this time though and get rid of the lock on education, unions, legal system, etc. that the democrats have made.”
“As to the history of the revolution, my ideas may be peculiar, perhaps singular. What do we mean by the Revolution? The war? That was no part of the revolution; it was only an effect and consequence of it. The revolution was in the minds of the people, and this was effected from 1760 - 1775, in the course of fifteen years, before a drop of blood was shed at Lexington.” -John Adams in a Letter to Thomas Jefferson
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people’s minds.” –Samuel Adams
There is already a revolution starting in peoples minds I think, the day of it’s greatest evidence is coming in November 2010.
Then the real work begins.
"If you are mad as hell and aren't gonna take it anymore, grab your rifle and head outside. If you're the only one with a rifle screaming like a maniac, go back inside. It isn't time yet."
Well?
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