IS IT TIME YET? Or is America still at the awkward stage? (Claire Wolfe)

RevolutionRadio.org ^ | 10/12/09 | Claire Wolfe

[RobRoy]

I link to that quote every chance I get. And regarding that “too early to shoot the bastards” part. I keep asking, “if not now, when?”

That is, when IS it time to take the lead from our founding fathers. I personally don’t have an answer to that. I can only say “not today” and I have no future date in mind. It is not about future dates, it is about future government actions. But I don’t want to be the frog slowly boiled alive either.

I think the results of the 2010 elections will hold the key. I honestly believed (and still do) that if Obama had lost there would have been the most serious urban rioting in the history of the US. If Democrats stay in power in 2010, there may be active resistence from the other side, and they have a lot more self sufficient within their ranks, not to mention NRA members. They will take our founding fathers as their template.

[ClearCase_guy]

But if you pot a bureaucrat figuring it’ll light some fire under the cold, dead butts of a complacent nation … good luck.

The overall point is probably valid. But I'm on record saying that I support anyone -- crazy or not -- who tries to take a stand and fight the government. They all have it coming.

[Noumenon]

We’ve raised our alert and preparedness to the equivalent of DEFCON 2. 72 hour kits packed and ready. I advise the rest of you to do the same. Except, of course, for all those who are still whisting past the graveyard of this once-free Republic in the vain hope that your vote and your letters and your phone calls and your emails still count for something. Didn’t you just get an object lesson on that?

And for those of you with no lines in the sand, no limit on the amount of servitude you’re willing to accept - don’t you bother, either.

So, for the rest of us - the three percenters - keep your combat / E&E kits within easy reach. Keep your skills sharp. You’re going to need them.

[Bon mots]

Some are predicting a second American Civil War.

[Noumenon]

They all have it coming.

With exception of a handful - do they ever. Pray for military intervention.

[screaminsunshine]

A fate worse than Death. De-Fund the Bastards. Tax Revolt.

[Huck]

It was time the first day the first court upheld the first blatantly unconstitutional law for the sake of political expediency.

Takes you all the way back to 1804 or so.

[Pessimist]

“But neither — lately — has anything catastrophic — just the usual crawl toward total government domination. “

Huh?

When was this written?

[popdonnelly]

I believe that any random acts of violence will be self-defeating, and I’m opposed to them.

[RobRoy]

This looks to have been written in 2000.

[RobRoy]

>>A fate worse than Death. De-Fund the Bastards. Tax Revolt.<<

I spend as little as possible, except I buy as much gold and junk silver as I can.

[C210N]

As I continue to read the Federalist Papers, I’m thinking we should revert to the Articles of Confederation. All Sinators and Reps go home to their respective states.

[RobRoy]

>>I believe that any random acts of violence will be self-defeating, and I’m opposed to them.<<

Like the Boston Tea Party?

[screaminsunshine]

Hey. Me too. I see ugly times ahead. I am planning escape and survival. This is coming down.

[The Sons of Liberty]

I honestly believed (and still do) that if Obama had lost there would have been the most serious urban rioting in the history of the US.

I think you are correct, and I also think he got some votes from people just to avoid this, but I say, let them riot, I can always buy more ammo.

[Huck]

You should really read the ANTIfederalist papers. I would highly—HIGHLY-—recommend Antifederalist papers #78-81, on judicial power, #32, on implied powers, and #39, on pretend federalism vs actual federalism. Sad that there seem to be so few conservatives familiar with these great essays. I get so tired of hearing commentators praise the Federalist papers, when in fact almost everything they promised turned out to be not so.

Here’s a link

http://www.wepin.com/articles/afp/

When you compare Madison and Hamilton’s essays to the antifed essays I mentioned, you’ll see right away who was right and who was wrong.

[Huck]

Under the Articles there would be no reps—no people’s house—because the confederacy had no direct power over the people. It only had power over the states, and that was EXPRESSED power only (as opposed to implied power). One senator each, who could be recalled at anytime for any reason, and replaced. In my opinion. the Articles, though they needed some tweaks, were vastly superior to the Constitution. I view the Constitution as a tragic mistake, and I see no way to undo the damage except to abolish it.

[Noumenon]

Shakespeare's understanding and characterization of human natuer and our foibles is as relevant to day as it was then:

We at the height are ready to decline.
There is a tide in the affairs of men
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
On such a full sea are we now afloat,
And we must take the current when it serves,
Or lose our ventures...
--Julius Caesar

[RobRoy]

Wait'll the retail numbers come out in January and February. When we have ghost malls, many more will understand. Eventually this will reach critical mass. In all seriousness, our press really IS looking more and more like this guy: