Posted on 12/17/2009 9:57:20 AM PST by sarah fan UK
I'd like to thank Eugene Robinson for highlighting Alaska's achievements on climate change ["Palin's own 'Climate- gate,' " op-ed, Dec. 15] and for noting that I've "treated the issue as serious, complex, and worthy of urgent attention," while making "any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor." But he's wrong to suggest that my views have somehow changed or that now I'll have to "renounce" my past efforts.
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As I’ve said a million times: Like sh-t...climate change happens!
This CAN be agreed upon.
What can’t be agreed on, nor is even practical, let alone necessary, is to attempt, via our puny little actions, to control the climate one way or the other.
For the hysterical Greenie-bots, its as if stasis is a climatic virtue! Or put another way, exactly WHAT is the appropriate mean global temperature of the Earth? Exactly WHAT is the approriate sea level? Exactly WHAT is the appropriate continental ice coverage? And on...and on...and on.
So Palin believes in the hoax/marxist scam. She believes in voluntary carbon trading as well. Wow. Now I see why McCain wanted her as his V.P. If McCain would have won she would have been used as a tool to influence conservatives into believing in the marxist scam called climate change.
And we all know, once you accept a marxist scam it is only a matter of time before they strip you of everything you’ve worked for. So her thought that she could accept the scam but not cap and trade is crap. She would take us down the same marxist path of wealth redistribution (theft), just a little slower.
To paraphrase Darth Vader, “I find your lack of reading comprehension... disturbing.”
To say that Palin believes in the AGW hoax and that she believes in voluntary carbon trading is either a flat-out lie or just plain stupid.
Which is it in your case?
- JP
Forget the cold...move there anyway. The people in Alaska say “there is no thing as bad weather..only bad clothing”.
If you are prepared for the weather then you won’t mind it so much. It is a beautiful and wonderful place to live.
But considering voluntary participation in carbon-trading programs is much different from endorsing the economically disastrous cap-and-tax proposals
Her belief in climate change:
Once again: I don't deny that climate change is real.
Agree completely. If banning CO2 is imperative, then banning water vapor should have been done many moons ago. Water vapor, by far, is the leading contributor to ‘greenhousing’.
Banning it, of course, is ridiculous. What’s also NEVER said is that the ocean absorbs CO2.
Very few idiots opening their yaps about climate change understand any of the science behind it, including the rickety chain of ‘discoveries’ - From Fourier’s out of context claim that ‘all things being equal, the Earth ought to be a snowball (1821)’ to the infrared refraction experiments used to finger CO2 as the culprit for ‘warming’.
Bottom line - it’s a sham. A way to usher in global socialism ‘for the children’.
Well that makes sense: say you don’t think man is causing climate change, but set up a government panel to start carbon trading. Hmmmm... now which is it?
You know if this was abortion most FReepers would have no patience for this. Imagine her saying, well life is at conception, but turning around and setting up a government panel to look into government funding of abortions.
I like Sarah, but like every politician my support has a very short leash. I have no patience for a politician that sets up boards to explore issues they say don’t exist. You can’t have it both ways, and she’s trying to have it both ways.
As to your problem with Palin's belief in climate change, perhaps you might want to educate yourself a bit before casting stones. Climate change is real, it's here and it's perfectly natural. Much of the US was covered with glaciers in the past but due to natural climate change they went away. These same natural changes will bring them back one day and there's not a damn thing we can do about it.
That's the point really, we can't do anything about it. Any attempt to extort money from the people in an attempt to do so is outright fraud.
Of coarse climate change is real. And insulting me like that doesn’t make your case in supporting Palin or voluntary carbon trading.
1.) Why would Palin want voluntary carbon trading if as you say, she doesn’t believe carbon is changing the climate? She’s just a con artist at that point... because carbon trading is only needed if you believe carbon is harming the environment.
2.) Voluntary trading isn’t voluntary if the city or state you live in decides to join an exchange. Those exchanges are voluntary to join, but once in the city or state joins a legally binding agreement concerning carbon emissions. I can give you a trillion reasons why conservatives should never support “voluntary” carbon trading.
Get behind her. She may very well be our only hope against the cabal of elitists looking to install the New World Order. I, for one, do not wish for my family or myself to be a serf.
Fight the NWO!
Yeah, I know what you’re saying. I think the ovations Hugo Chavez received over in Copenhagen really pissed me off.
I used to think it was all a big conspiracy theory. But, after GWB, I now know it’s real. These chumps want to unite Europe and North Africa (nearly accomplished), The Asian countries, and North/South America. Then they bring it all together under the tyranny of the elite aristocrats. I HATE aristocrats!
Really?
I have great difficultly understanding what it is that the people who are buying get.
I think the whole thing is a fraud; and I don't think that laws against fraud are unreasonable.
ML/NJ
I'd like to thank Eugene Robinson for highlighting Alaska's achievements on climate change ["Palin's own 'Climate- gate,' " op-ed, Dec. 15] and for noting that I've "treated the issue as serious, complex, and worthy of urgent attention," while making "any number of pragmatic, reasonable, smart decisions as governor." But he's wrong to suggest that my views have somehow changed or that now I'll have to "renounce" my past efforts.
I think the whole thing is a fraud; and I don't think that laws against fraud are unreasonable.
Me either and I do too, respectively. My point was if it's VOLUNTARY then we can be free to do stupid things as we wish. What's being proposed is certainly not voluntary.
How exactly did I insult you? You were lambasting Palin for saying climate change is real and I simply agreed with her that it IS real. She never said it was man-made and neither did I. (and it isn't!!!)
Allowing people to voluntarily do stupid thing is a conservative position. If your city or state government starts trading in baseball cards or carbon credits on thier own they deserve to face the wrath of the people.
The fraud that is AGW will be soon exposed. The carbon credit charade will follow quickly behind it. Once the average Joe realizes it's a scam then no one will invest in it voluntarily.
As a conservative I'm not big on banning things...
FR thread with discussion of the committee: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2407733/posts
Home page of committee: http://www.climatechange.alaska.gov/
BEST: (Horse’s mouth): Palin’s Letter introducing the committee: http://www.climatechange.alaska.gov/docs/govrpt_jul08.pdf
Lots of stuff on how to be prepared for changes. Most of it is related to melting permafrost (roadways, construction), flooding of low-level areas (already occurring), etc. It is NOT a panel on how to change climate, it is how do we respond to it.
Of course, as a politician she holds on to the possibility of some manmade influence, but uses it as an opportunity to push Alaska’s natural gas resources. Now that she is a bit more outside the “politician role” - and perhaps knows more about the whole issue like most people have learned, especially with “Climate Gate” - she is coming closer to pronouncing it as the hoax (manmade GW) that it is.
Actually it's no more colder than the upper Midwest and Great Lake states.
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