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Former Obama Organizer Threatens to 'Out' Catholic Priests (to repudiate Catholic teaching)
CNS News ^ | November 24, 2009 | Matt Cover

Posted on 11/24/2009 10:09:43 AM PST by NYer


FILE- Archbishop of Washington Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl walks with United States Chief Justice John Roberts after the Red Mass at Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle, in Washington, Sunday, Oct. 4, 2009. (AP photo)

(CNSNews.com) – A longtime Washington, D.C., liberal Internet activist has founded a Web site that he says will collect accounts of homosexuals in the Catholic priesthood--accounts he will use to “encourage” them to change their views on homosexual marriage and other issues.

“Outing” the priests--publicly revealing their homosexuality--is “not off the table,” Phil Attey, founder of the Web site ChurchOuting.com, told CNSNews.com. The site will also collect information on straight priests who have broken their vow of celibacy, using the information to “encourage” those priests to go against their Church’s teachings on homosexuality as well.

“This is a campaign to collect information about closeted gay Catholic priests, as well as heterosexual Catholic priests who secretly engage in romantic or sexual affairs, yet are unwilling to speak out against the church leadership's anti-gay political campaigns,” the Web site says. 

Attey, a former Obama campaign organizer and Internet organizing pioneer, said the goal of his site was not to “out” the priests, but to end what he called the “spiritual abuse” inflicted by Catholic priests who teach against homosexual marriage and the homosexual lifestyle.

“The goal of this site is not to out priests,” Attey said. “It’s to end the cycle of spiritual abuse that has gone on for generations within the Catholic Church, demonizing what it is to be gay. Closeted gay priests spiritually abusing young gay kids and giving them the alternative of going into the clergy and into the priesthood.”

Priests who refuse to come out after being confronted may be publicly exposed, according to Attey.

“We’re not taking that option off the table,” he said.

Bill Donahue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, strongly condemned the plan.

“There’s a word for this--it’s ‘fascism.’ They’re just out to publicly destroy people,” Donahue told CNSNews.com.

“Are they going to start harassing, intimidating, stalking priests?” Donahue asked. “This is a religious cleansing; this is a witch hunt. This is simply beyond the pale.”

Focusing on Washington Archdiocese
 
Attey’s campaign is focused on the Washington, D.C., archdiocese, where Archbishop Donald W. Wuerl, who has spoken out against the D.C. City Council’s move to recognize gay marriage.

“For the archdiocese and Catholic Charities, two core tenets of our faith are at the heart of our concerns: our understanding of the nature of marriage and our commitment to expressing Christ’s love through service to others,” Wuerl wrote in a Nov. 17 Washington Post op-ed.

“Under the legislative language before the D.C. Council, the archdiocese would be forced to choose between these two principles. The archdiocese has long made clear that all people have equal dignity, regardless of sexual orientation. But marriage is reserved for husband and wife because of its essential connection with the creation of children.”

Wuerl noted that if the D.C. City Council moves to redefine marriage to include homosexuals his church may not be able to continue partnering with the city on other charitable projects, such as feeding the homeless.
 
“(T)he District requires Catholic Charities to certify its compliance with city laws when applying for contracts and grants. This includes contracts for homeless services, mental health services, foster care and more. Since Catholic Charities cannot comply with city mandates to recognize and promote same-sex marriages, the city would withhold contracts and licenses,” Wuerl explained.

According to Attey, homosexual and non-celibate heterosexual priests who support these and other positions of the Washington archdiocese are “hypocrites,” whom his Web site would work to bring out of the “closet.”
 
“The dream of this site is to collect enough stories about enough priests so that we can go to them and say ‘Listen, this Web site has collected enough stories about enough of you in the archdiocese to where the archbishop can’t seek retribution against you or retaliate against you if you all come out at once. And if you do that there aren’t going to be any stories floated about you (to media outlets.)’ ” 

After that, where a homosexual or non-celibate priest stands on gay issues is up to him, Attey explained, saying he doesn’t care so long as “everyone knows the priest is gay.”

“Where they stand on LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender) issues after that is totally fine with me. If they want to be an openly-gay priest standing up as an openly-gay person standing up in front of their parish supporting whatever ideology the Catholic Church wants them to support, that’s fine.”

Attey said he will use “rigorous scrutiny” in investigating any tip he receives about a potentially gay priest, pointing out that people who wish to leave tips on his web site cannot remain anonymous and must be able to provide the names of other witnesses that can corroborate the stories.

“No report is allowed to be anonymous, they have to give us their names (and) their e-mail address at least. We send them an e-mail, if it all seems credible, and we ask them if we can speak with them about it. At which point I ask them to write it out in the form of a narrative and sign it.

“I’m specifically looking for situational or logistical information around their story: where it took place, any other individuals involved, dates, and times, so that we can start looking into (it.) After we’ve verified it through two or three different sources then I think it’s fair to say that it’s a credible story.

“No name would ever be released unless it goes through that rigorous scrutiny,” he said. 

Attey said that he will use the accounts to “encourage” gay and non-celibate priests to come out publicly and turn against the Church’s teachings on homosexuality.

“We’re going to encourage them to change,” Attey explained. “This is a much bigger issue within the Catholic Church--rectifying the hypocrisy of their stands on LGBT people, not just civil equality.”

Priests who might face public exposure, he said, would be either high profile priests or more junior clergy who were outspoken proponents of the Church’s teachings on gay issues.

Attey said that high profile priests would receive a visit first, to let them know that they were going to be exposed whether they cooperated or not.

“We’d go to him first and we’d explain to him that we’re about to do this and then we’d probably do it whether he was willing to come out on his own or not.”

Priests who strongly support the Church’s teaching may also be exposed, depending on how outspoken they are.

“It also depends upon how heavy handed the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is and a particular bishop or archbishop is on making them follow through on the agenda of the USCCB. 

“If that priest is allowing his Church to disseminate the pastoral letter condemning homosexuality again and or using their collection plate to fund anti-gay initiatives well that’s another marker--I’m not taking it off (the table.) We’re going to analyze what’s going on within that parish and the behavior of that particular priest to decide whether or not at the end if they’re not willing to come out on their own we’re going to need to intervene.”

Donahue thinks the tactic is so heinous that even some homosexual leaders probably oppose it. 

“It’s borderline blackmail, at the very least, if not rank blackmail as one could maintain,” Donahue said. “Even if one disagrees with the archbishop in Washington in terms of what he’s doing, these kinds of tactics are obviously so incredibly monstrous and odious that it would seem to beg a response from gay leaders.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: attey; bocampaignorganizer; campaignorganizer; catholic; catholicpriests; catholics; democrat; democrats; homosexualagenda; homosexualpriests; homosexuals; impeachobama; obama; philattey; ussa; wuerl
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To: Rutles4Ever
...I’m not offended by your views, just puzzled by anyone who prefers to be “outside” the ark rather than “inside”, in spite of the smelly animals that are riding along...

ROFL! THAT IS FUNNY! :)

Don't try to understand me... I am peculiar in my beliefs I think... But they are deeply ingrained, it's hard to change.

61 posted on 11/24/2009 1:30:28 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war (...Actually I heard something lately) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: Rutles4Ever
I do not agree. For instance, if an organization accused me of being a homosexual, I would sue them for every cent that it had. In talking about the real world, how many people do you think believe that nearly ALL priests are pedophiles and/or homosexuals? The way that I see it, the Roman Catholic Church has nothing to lose.
62 posted on 11/24/2009 1:32:03 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

You ought ought to se the problem: gays priest are subject to blackmail. They can be intimidated into not preaching Christ. I will stand with any gay priest who stands with the Church, but many will not. In many respects, though, they are no worse than priests ,who are secretly unbelievers When they are tested they betray the Church. Those of the order of Judas.


63 posted on 11/24/2009 1:33:54 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS
You know, St. Augustine might have had a problem with blackmail, too, but he didn't. He realized the grace by which he was saved was far more effective than a bunch of whiny babies crying about his previous indiscretions. I repeat: If there are gay priests who have maintained chaste lives after taking their vows of celibacy, then stand up and take a bow. There's no shame in the way you were made, the Good Lord gives new life to all who follow him. It's a moot issue for anyone who is truly in Christ because they're not looking for a way to sin, rather they are looking for a way out of it.
64 posted on 11/24/2009 1:39:18 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Nosterrex
“If a priest or bishop is an active homosexual, they need to go.”

With that, I agree, but then, there's no need to be a priest if you can't manage to keep your vows, unless it serves as a camouflage. Otherwise, be what you are and be a good Christian. No heterosexual can run around diddling himself crazy and be a priest, either. It ain't fittin’. It just ain't fittin’. A VOW is a VOW.

65 posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:02 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: ElPatriota

The Church has no enemies! How about that. There are only truth tellers horrified by her evil deeds. How about that!


66 posted on 11/24/2009 1:51:45 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: ElPatriota

The Church has no enemies! How about that. There are only truth tellers horrified by her evil deeds. How about that!


67 posted on 11/24/2009 1:51:59 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Even though we have focused upon homosexual behavior, heterosexual misconduct is not any less a sin than homosexual misconduct. Every once in a while I hear of a Lutheran pastor that engages in some sort of homosexual activity, but by far and away the main problem is with pastors having sexual affairs with married women. If they are caught, they are immediately removed and defrocked. I had a good friend in the ministry that was caught having an affair with a member of his congregation. He is now working for his dad raising chickens.
68 posted on 11/24/2009 1:59:47 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: RobbyS

Amen!


69 posted on 11/24/2009 2:01:47 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Be that as it may the Church has long had restrictions on who could be a priest.
For instance, if you were a bastard—I mean of illegitimate birth, it was rare for you to be made a priest. Exceptions were made. I think Erasmus was born out of wedlock. Until the ‘70s there was a real effort to weed homosexuals out. Then, after so many seminaries were left empty, many homosexuals were allowed into the priesthood. It was an experiment based in large part on the recommendations of mental health persons, party on the need to fill “slots” So we had a hollow priesthood just as in the ‘70s we had a hollow Army. The scandals showed what mischief “progressive” reforms can have.


70 posted on 11/24/2009 2:06:21 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Nosterrex

Until he can keep his pants zipped, I suggest that is precisely where he should be. When he gets his silly self under control again, he’s as welcome back as rain in the drought of August.


71 posted on 11/24/2009 2:13:14 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: RobbyS

Sorry, I did not understand you the first time (Through the eyes of its enemies, etc, it makes more sense now)... Still, I’m just tired. Let’s just give it a rest for now. Take care :)


72 posted on 11/24/2009 2:13:56 PM PST by ElPatriota (The SILENCE of the Catholic Church on the war (...Actually I heard something lately) ** DEAFENING **)
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To: RobbyS
“For instance, if you were a bastard—I mean of illegitimate birth, it was rare for you to be made a priest. Exceptions were made. I think Erasmus was born out of wedlock. Until the ‘70s there was a real effort to weed homosexuals out.”

Great! That's just great. I'd definitely use that as an argument. The last person consulted as to the social standing to which he would be relegated would have been the “bastard.” You know, there are so many jumping off places for that illogical theory, I don't know where to start. Fortunately, St. Joseph was closer to God than the Church has been in some instances.

73 posted on 11/24/2009 2:20:11 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: RobbyS

You have to remember that to the rest of the unsaved world, our dear divinely begotten Christ looked like he was on the short side of the social scale as well.


74 posted on 11/24/2009 2:32:49 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Once upon a time, bastardy was a stigma that was worse than being a slave, although the two were related. To be without a father/mother is to be in social limbo. They only things that might save one was if the father was of high standing, so that he could get some support. That was he could pass as a Nephew of a priest, for instance. Gays are right about one thing, until recently to be a homosexual was to be an outcast like that. In today’s world, of course, things are topsy turvey. To be either he child of a single woman or gay, is be virtuous. I suspect that Mr. Obama has worked so hard to conceal his birth records, not because they would show he was not born in Hawaii but that his father was not married to his mother. For a white woman to be married to a black man in 1961 was pretty bad, but to be just his girl friend were even worse.


75 posted on 11/24/2009 2:48:54 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Not unless you think the Jewish calumny that he was the bastard child of Mary and a Roman soldier.


76 posted on 11/24/2009 3:02:53 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

I don’t think so, but it’s amazing how many “religious” people of his day did. He “carried on” with saint and sinner alike and welcomed St. Dismas on the Cross. I’ve loved him since I could pronounce his name which, according to my mother, was at a year and a half. By age 2, I was the “hall monitor” for getting to Church on Sundays no matter how late they’d stayed out or up on Saturday night. I’ve never known a time when he was not my savior, and I hope I don’t live so long as to forget that he is.


77 posted on 11/24/2009 3:13:54 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: NYer

It is little wonder that, in the Year of the Priest, the devil is attacking the priesthood. Those who are homosexual but chaste have nothing to fear. We all have our cross to bear.


78 posted on 11/24/2009 5:48:42 PM PST by Melian ("Here's the moral of the story: Catholic witness has a cost." ~Archbishop Charles Chaput)
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To: jroneil

We are all sinners. We all know that.


79 posted on 11/24/2009 11:21:46 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

THREAD BUMP.


80 posted on 11/25/2009 12:26:45 AM PST by Cindy
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