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The story behind Darwin's warm little pond
ARN ^ | November 6, 2009 | David Tyler, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/07/2009 6:08:03 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Sooner or later, students of abiogenesis will encounter Darwin's 1871 letter to Joseph Hooker with his speculations on the spontaneous generation of life. He was returning some pamphlets which triggered the reaction: "I am always delighted to see a word in favour of Pangenesis, which some day, I believe, will have a resurrection." The next paragraph has his "big if" dream: ...

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To: GodGunsGuts
I told you I want you to read the whole thing. Have you read all of Genesis 3 yet?

We are up to verse 10. As I said, we will go through them one by one till you we go through them all. Or until you admit you misrepresented Genesis 3.

41 posted on 11/08/2009 1:08:52 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

Keep reading. But in the meantime, why don’t you tell me how I am misrepresenting Genesis 3.


42 posted on 11/08/2009 1:10:30 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; count-your-change

None has come to defend you. Even count-your-change beat it out of Dodge.


43 posted on 11/08/2009 1:13:32 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

Why would anyone need to defend me? As usual, you have be cornered and you are refusing to answer questions.


44 posted on 11/08/2009 1:16:04 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl
Darwin was ashamed of himself for “truckling to public opinion....”

On the publishing history, I find it curious that the Creator evidently was not mentioned in the first edition of Origin of Species, but only appears in the second and later ones. So when did Darwin actually start truckling to public opinion? Why would he truckle to it in the first place? One supposes he wasn't looking for confirmation from theists in order for his theory to be accepted.

Still, any way you slice it, these are not scientific questions.

IMHO, Darwin hoists himself on his own petard if we just read him and take him at his word as to what the evidentiary standard needs to be for his evolution theory to prove correct. All these speculations about his personal, psychological motivation simply detracts from this.

Or so it seems to me, FWIW.

Thanks so much for writing, GGG!

45 posted on 11/08/2009 1:22:26 PM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“GodGunsGuts to SargeTheSane; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson “

“To: GodGunsGuts I repeat, stop hitting the abuse button. 210 posted on 10/22/2009 3:29:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator”


46 posted on 11/08/2009 2:09:06 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: betty boop
"Like the grey-eyed Athena, [life] it simply sprang forth fully formed from the brow of Zeus...."

Oh darn, and here all along I thought it was Topsy. Topsy will be badly shaken to know this.

47 posted on 11/08/2009 2:33:53 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: ColdWater
Me: “What is “GGG”?

You: GGG is a YECer that has to meet his minimum number of new threads per day, misrepresents that Bible and won't own up to it.

Clearly that doesn't include me and I don't apprecaite you misrpersenting me to fit whatever YOUR agenda is.


I'm also not a “YECer” or yes person.


I see no misrepresentation on this thread about the Bible. When I do see a misrepresentation of the Bible, I comment on it. I may not catch every one that misrepresents the Bible since I have a life outside of FR.

So, knock off the mindless name calling and misrepresenting ME!

48 posted on 11/08/2009 3:57:21 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
Clearly that doesn't include me and I don't apprecaite you misrpersenting me to fit whatever YOUR agenda is.

Huh? I made no reference to you or your agenda.

49 posted on 11/08/2009 4:02:52 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

I am referring to these exchanges to ME!

The story behind Darwin’s warm little pond
Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:00:49 PM · 36 of 49
ColdWater to nmh; GodGunsGuts

What is “GGG”?

GGG is a YECer that has to meet his minimum number of new threads per day, misrepresents that Bible and won’t own up to it.

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Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:57:21 PM · 48 of 49
nmh to ColdWater

Me: “What is “GGG”?

You: GGG is a YECer that has to meet his minimum number of new threads per day, misrepresents that Bible and won’t own up to it.

Clearly that doesn’t include me and I don’t apprecaite you misrpersenting me to fit whatever YOUR agenda is.

I’m also not a “YECer” or yes person.

I see no misrepresentation on this thread about the Bible. When I do see a misrepresentation of the Bible, I comment on it. I may not catch every one that misrepresents the Bible since I have a life outside of FR.

So, knock off the mindless name calling and misrepresenting ME!

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“Huh? I made no reference to you or your agenda.”

I have no agenda but to speak the truth.


50 posted on 11/08/2009 4:06:46 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

I am sorry. But I still see that I only referred to GGG and said NOTHING about you at all. And your second post is the one you sent to me! You can’t complain to me about what you are sending to me.


51 posted on 11/08/2009 4:10:54 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: nmh

OH! The light has come on in my head. You ARE GGG. One and the same! When I was referring to GGG I was also (unknowingly) referring to you. Thanks for straightening me out on that. Do I call you GGG or nmh?


52 posted on 11/08/2009 4:16:23 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Why would anyone need to defend me?

Why would anyone want to defend you?

53 posted on 11/08/2009 5:48:42 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl
Topsy will be badly shaken to know this.

Oh, my condolences to Topsy! But ask Topsy which model of the "common ancestor" he prefers: (a) percolating muck that just gets lucky; or (b) the grey-eyed goddess of Reason.

My suspicion is the truth of the matter lies somewhere in between.

But having said that, still we have only a possible description of original events. Nowhere do we see any clue into the action at the "event" of the Beginning.

It's always so good to see you again, dear YHAOS! Thank you so much for writing.

54 posted on 11/09/2009 12:01:16 PM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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. . . ask Topsy which model of the "common ancestor" he prefers:

Simply as a point of information: Topsy is a “she.” A little black slave girl, and a character from Stowe’s Uncle Tom’s Cabin. In the anticipation that she was ignorant of God, she was asked who had made her. She answered, ”I s'pect I just growed. Don't think nobody never made me.” From that came the saying, “Like Topsy, it just growed.”

Like Topsy, Darwinian Atheists seem to be similarly vague about the origins of life, particularly the origin of Mankind. Unlike Topsy, they seem to become rather edgy about it when they are reminded of their vagueness.

55 posted on 11/09/2009 1:44:52 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl
Unlike Topsy, they seem to become rather edgy about it when they are reminded of their vagueness.

Thanks for the backgrounder on "Topsy," YHAOS! (I never did read Uncle Tom's Cabin.)

How can Darwinian atheists be other than "vague" about the origins of life? The scientific method in general does not/cannot reach to "origin" questions. On such questions, it always comes in "a day late and a dime short."

56 posted on 11/09/2009 2:56:30 PM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: betty boop
You're welcome for the backgrounder. Probably more than you ever wanted to know on that subject. ( ^: }

"How can Darwinian atheists be other than "vague" about the origins of life?"

How, indeed. I have no quarrel with that. The edgyness is less justifiable, IMO.

57 posted on 11/09/2009 3:43:11 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: GodGunsGuts

Shaddap...


58 posted on 11/09/2009 6:40:52 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Are you the Admin Mod on loan from DU? (or Nancy Pelosi’s webmaster...)


59 posted on 11/09/2009 6:45:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Admin Moderator

The lib was shut up/banned days ago.


60 posted on 11/09/2009 6:46:34 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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